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if here we go i wish we could hear the

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music man i wish that worked i gotta

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figure out oh yeah

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well hey you ready um let's see

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are we uh we live people i think we're

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live dude yes all right let's do it

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hell yeah let's go hey this is another

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episode of ufo garage

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i'm ben and i'm joe and this is where we

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talk about

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sandwiches kangaroo anatomy and

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exactly what i was gonna say dude oh

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you know you know ufos aliens and and

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all things weird

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the usual stuff

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hell yeah what's up dude dude uh vid

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i i i'm chilling i'm excited to

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to be back on man it's been a crazy week

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so much stuff is happening twitter

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youtube the news everything's going wild

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uh i mean i just kind of want to hang

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about ufos aliens and all things weird

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man i mean i'm down

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that's it i'm excited and yeah dude we

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so we have an awesome guest with us

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lou gimenez from uh the unidentified

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celebrity review

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um adding him into the stream what's up

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lou hey boys

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joe and ben i'm glad you wasted that

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awesome intro on me and not the other

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oh he'll get a good one yeah yeah i'm

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sure he will you might have popped out

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after that masturbation line but i'm

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still here boys i'm here with you

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that's how we that's when we weed people

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out you know

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exactly yeah if you drop out of out

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after that intro

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you're not cool yeah you can't handle a

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masturbation joke like you're just not

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cool man you're just not cool man

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you're not gonna you're not gonna make

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it past episode three no

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definitely not because episode 2

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we have a dick pillow sponsor

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yeah yeah i love i love always

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explaining you porn to people i'm like

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it's just like youtube but with porn

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yeah there's like weird and it's f and

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it's free

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there's like i'm such an idiot oh yeah

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see how they get you though

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is that is that it might be free but

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it's really expensive to buy a new

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it's like it's like all funded by like

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viruses dude bill gates you're going to

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have to make up that half you lost man

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this is a good idea here for you look

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he's about to be on on looking on you

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you board a lot a lot more

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nowadays i mean [\h__\h] i mean i need to

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make light of the situation but

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he's he's bill gates i'm sure he's

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pulling up in some nice cars to those

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restaurants

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right i'm curious to know why they split

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why now i mean you guys have

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gone this long you might as well just

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keep up the facade and go do whatever

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like i don't care about their i could

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he's like that's just me he's like broke

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syphilis spread like you know like like

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broken a couple roles because he's a

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billionaire and he can kind of make

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those things happen

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most billionaires do i don't know i just

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good like ending syphilis like that's a

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really hard thing to do especially in a

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africa where every single uh

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that that control that and you can't get

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bill gates and his white wife to hop in

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syphilis medication like

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they're gonna be like get the [\h__\h] out

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blame him dude he's trying to do some

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u.s and replace oil consumption like

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in the us because the united states has

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a coastline and running half the country

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submarines are out in the middle of the

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yeah that's only the most important

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everybody throws the

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our argument of well they're just trying

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because it's clean and it's safe i'm

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version of that on land like they

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what bill gates was trying to tell

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united states that he started to he had

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of kovit like and and then also a bunch

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of rules in china that he just couldn't

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and if there's that's the growing pains

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tax dollars and everything that we do

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of the right product exactly

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and it's sponsored by mentos yeah it's

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like can you imagine like if if the

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nuclear meltdown was saved because of

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this new tech and then all of a sudden

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we gotta make that into a commercial

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it'd be a good sketch that's for sure

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so luke dude uh tell us tell us about

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your show man tell us about what you do

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yeah like how'd you get into this like

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man uh so so um

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i mean dude it's it's a typical story i

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think you know like with a lot of people

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to the ufo books and the bigfoot books

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and then when i was 13 13 years old

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i had my first experience it was

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very very close 300 yards away it was a

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it was

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in at a party with a lot of people with

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adults

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children like it was the craziest thing

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i've ever seen

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and then um and then i got into middle

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school high school i didn't really

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talk about it you know i was a football

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player you know

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i was doing other things it just wasn't

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if somebody brought it up

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i'd talk about it and then same thing

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when i moved to new york city

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started studying acting and

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then i moved out to la 10 years ago and

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i've been acting and i haven't really

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thought about it and then 2017 happened

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you know the new york times article

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and i was like what is going on

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you know i immediately came became

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obsessed again

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like i was like oh man it was like a

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loss that just

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a whole bunch of things started flooding

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back to me you know my experience

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the books that i used to read all the

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stuff that i love the shows

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bob lazar all of these things that i

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used to just remember and love about

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this

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and um and it all just came rushing back

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and it was

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fun man and i was like reading this new

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york times article i'm like there's a

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senate majority leader

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there's a you secret ufo program what

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there's a guy who

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ran it is he's coming out what and i

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freaked out like ever

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like i mean you know i didn't miss the

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news like a lot of people did that was

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something that

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was one of my favorite things of news

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that came out

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in the last four years and and i was

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bummed because the

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the executive branch was so distracting

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that people just

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missed it even people that work in the

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media like who are on

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those television shows on fox and cnbc

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and msnbc

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they have they didn't see it which is

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just like

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how is that possible but they did it

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yeah

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going again but i didn't really you know

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i'm an actor right so

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i didn't want to put myself out there i

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was really struggling i knew i wanted to

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do something on youtube but

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i was very hesitant because i had this

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fear

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of what if people look at me and they

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think i'm a [\h__\h] nut ball you know

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um is there a way is there a way for me

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to talk about this

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without putting my personal stuff out

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there even though now

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that's out the window i've put all my

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personal [\h__\h] out there i don't care

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anymore

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i really have stopped caring what people

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think or say or

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what they think my intentions are like

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it doesn't matter anymore i've never

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been

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free free or mentally in my life i

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really don't care

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hell yeah that's awesome to hear no it's

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great and it's you want to know

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something

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ben it's attracting all of the things

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that i've always wanted

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which is crazy that's the easiest part

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it is

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absolutely it's insane dude um so

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um so you you are you've started you've

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decided when did you just decide to okay

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because you had mentioned that you

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wanted to do maybe a political podcast

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i did yeah that was the original ideas i

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wanted to talk about politics because i

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think it's

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important to have a conversation

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it just goes to ugly town super fast

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every single time

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it doesn't matter how good your

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intentions are even so i was like okay i

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can't do a political show

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then i started thinking about i'm you

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know i love playing video games i love

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watching films and television and

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right now we're like in a renaissance of

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tv it's so good some of these tv shows

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yeah i'm like you know man maybe i could

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do a review show

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and then i started thinking well you're

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also auditioning for some of these

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catholic directors that are in these

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shows and if you say some maybe

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they might see it they probably never

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will but who knows

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yeah you know so i was like i don't want

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to piss off any catholic directors or

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studios or whatever

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and so i was like then lou elizondo came

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into my restaurant that i was working in

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and

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he he was there with the production team

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the season two production team about

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identified

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it's like four people he was with and um

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i was like it's i look dude i've i've

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worked with tom hanks

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i've waited on madonna oprah winfrey

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anthony bourdain

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um i've been around big big stars for an

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extended

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period of time i'm not saying this to

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brag i'm saying this is because

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louis lozando's the first person where i

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audibly like i freaked out

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espec because at first i was like who is

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this guy

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you spilled a soup man oh no i didn't

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spill his soup

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i actually ended up hooking him up with

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a couple tostadas um

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nice but um but you know i talked to him

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i talked to him for a couple of hours

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and man i came home and i never i have

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not been that excited

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to talk to somebody about this subject

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since i've seen a ufo

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since my first experience like it was

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that

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maybe i should do this youtube thing

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like i could talk

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about this i know this subject well

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enough um

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and i was you know shooting it by my

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girlfriend because i'm like

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is this crazy you know i just had to

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bounce it off somebody

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yeah she buys me a light for christmas

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like one of these round nights and i'm

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like

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well i gotta do it now i mean she has

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light like there's no choice i kind of

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have to do it

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that's so supportive i love that yeah

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she's man i wouldn't be here talking to

445
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you guys if she didn't

446
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if she maybe wouldn't be here talking to

447
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you guys if she didn't buy me that light

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i mean i i i had a feeling i knew what i

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want to do

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but anyway so i was like let me let me

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do a show

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so i came up with the idea of doing a

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review

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show with my actor friends and my

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comedian friends that i've

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built up over a 20-year period i know a

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lot of people in this town

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um and some of them are like pretty

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well-known actors

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and uh and i was gonna bring them in and

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i was gonna

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do a review show where we uh where we

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review

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tv shows movies and either

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interviews or articles having to do with

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the topic of uaps and ufos yeah

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but the problem with that formula that

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i've that i

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really thought of but i still gave it a

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shot anyway

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was that it's hard to get somebody who

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[Music]

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doesn't he's not really interested in

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the topic to watch an

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hour-long program and and

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maybe and here's the thing is i can't

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show everybody

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every episode of unidentified you know

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what i mean like

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i sometimes have to show them shitty

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movies like

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and are they gonna sit through these

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shitty ufo movies you know because

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because my reviews i treat them the idea

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was to treat them like any other review

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show does on the internet or or since

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the beginning of time there's always

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been somebody who's got an opinion about

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somebody's art um and so

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you know but the difference between me

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and a lot of these other

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opinion makers that that comment

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especially on film is i'm a filmmaker

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i'm an actor i've got 20 years of

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experience writing producing

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directing um you know like like

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i'm an actual actor a working actor so

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i can look at a production and give it a

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fair critique

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and maybe put a little bit of pressure

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on some of these shows in these

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networks to make better [\h__\h] because

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this

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wrong when it comes to producing shows

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and especially tv shows and films

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like there's a perspective that that joe

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and i

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have had since kind of like the

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beginning when we started this podcast i

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mean yeah

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stuff has gotten better since then yeah

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but like

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we we attribute that to a lot of the

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uh the reason why some people just write

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this subject

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off or used to not anymore as we both

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know i think a lot of people know now

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but yeah yeah it's the production value

519
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it's like

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yeah you can you can make 50

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documentaries in one year

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anybody could do it all you gotta do is

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uh have a good script a kind of okay

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script

525
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and then look at archive footage and

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then boom

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you can just shell them out and that's i

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think what's been going on a little bit

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so

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a little bit it's it's like i want to

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sell i would love to

532
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sell a ufo anything

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like i could think of multiple stories

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to tell

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in a in a in a documentary style type

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format

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but i want i want to see it on hbo yeah

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so what's saying what story would you

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rate because so i guess

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i'll i'll lead with this louie like your

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your podcast is great like you've

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already you know introduced us

543
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to so many people thank you by the way

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uh you invited us to the big phone home

545
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that was a huge success

546
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uh yeah i mean you reached over like

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what like two million people

548
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um there was uh yeah well we reached 1.3

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million

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and i just want to be clear because

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everybody gets excited when i say that

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okay

553
00:19:03,190 --> 00:19:01,919
that means that people there was there

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was 1.3

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i mean still 1.3 million that's a lot of

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people but there was 1.3 million who

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were flicking doing this

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with their phone and they might have

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seen it right and

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then a percentage of them might have

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clicked it right you know i mean we've

562
00:19:17,909 --> 00:19:15,679
we've had about

563
00:19:19,430 --> 00:19:17,919
20 000 views over 20 000 views i think

564
00:19:23,110 --> 00:19:19,440
at this point yeah which

565
00:19:26,630 --> 00:19:23,120
it looks if if a quarter of that

566
00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:26,640
if one third of that

567
00:19:33,029 --> 00:19:29,679
uh uh called wrote

568
00:19:34,150 --> 00:19:33,039
tweeted emailed to a local or state

569
00:19:37,590 --> 00:19:34,160
representative

570
00:19:39,029 --> 00:19:37,600
success if if 200 people called out of

571
00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:39,039
the 20 000

572
00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:42,240
that's a success a huge success for me

573
00:19:46,950 --> 00:19:44,480
um you know and especially with only

574
00:19:49,029 --> 00:19:46,960
having 60 days to plan it

575
00:19:50,230 --> 00:19:49,039
um yeah i mean such a short window of

576
00:19:53,510 --> 00:19:50,240
time it was i mean

577
00:19:55,510 --> 00:19:53,520
[\h__\h] you had so many awesome names uh

578
00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:55,520
i i thought it went over fantastic i

579
00:19:57,750 --> 00:19:57,039
mean me and joe were on it so that was

580
00:19:59,909 --> 00:19:57,760
dope

581
00:20:01,110 --> 00:19:59,919
yeah yeah well well yeah dude i mean the

582
00:20:03,909 --> 00:20:01,120
idea is to bring

583
00:20:05,669 --> 00:20:03,919
people that i watch and i respect their

584
00:20:08,070 --> 00:20:05,679
not only their fun opinions or

585
00:20:09,190 --> 00:20:08,080
or or maybe even sometimes they're wrong

586
00:20:11,669 --> 00:20:09,200
but like i love

587
00:20:14,070 --> 00:20:11,679
the like i want i want people i need i

588
00:20:14,870 --> 00:20:14,080
need a gang of people that are positive

589
00:20:17,350 --> 00:20:14,880
thinking

590
00:20:19,029 --> 00:20:17,360
and not into throwing mud on twitter and

591
00:20:21,110 --> 00:20:19,039
into having conversations

592
00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:21,120
with people right you know like face to

593
00:20:24,630 --> 00:20:22,480
face like

594
00:20:25,830 --> 00:20:24,640
um you know so that's why when i watch

595
00:20:27,909 --> 00:20:25,840
your channels i mean these

596
00:20:29,190 --> 00:20:27,919
as soon as i never met you guys but as

597
00:20:29,510 --> 00:20:29,200
soon as i started watching you guys i'm

598
00:20:31,510 --> 00:20:29,520
like

599
00:20:33,029 --> 00:20:31,520
these are my people i have to reach out

600
00:20:34,710 --> 00:20:33,039
to them one way or the other

601
00:20:36,390 --> 00:20:34,720
and get them on the show i've never

602
00:20:38,230 --> 00:20:36,400
heard any of your stuff but i don't care

603
00:20:40,789 --> 00:20:38,240
because i'm listening to it right now

604
00:20:41,990 --> 00:20:40,799
and and i swear to god dude i told you

605
00:20:44,070 --> 00:20:42,000
this in a private chat

606
00:20:45,190 --> 00:20:44,080
in five seconds i knew i want to hang

607
00:20:47,350 --> 00:20:45,200
out with these dudes

608
00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:47,360
like and i love that hey you shout out

609
00:20:50,870 --> 00:20:48,480
to chad smith for

610
00:20:51,909 --> 00:20:50,880
linking us up man for sure chad smith

611
00:20:55,029 --> 00:20:51,919
was my like my

612
00:20:56,549 --> 00:20:55,039
first fan the guy who actually was like

613
00:20:59,270 --> 00:20:56,559
i love your channel man when i go to

614
00:21:01,190 --> 00:20:59,280
work and it's all i listen to i'm like

615
00:21:03,510 --> 00:21:01,200
thank you dude this is what i have you

616
00:21:06,310 --> 00:21:03,520
know 80 subscribers or something

617
00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:06,320
um but yeah dude it's like i'm trying to

618
00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:07,760
bring what i'm trying to do is

619
00:21:13,270 --> 00:21:10,880
build a network of people

620
00:21:15,029 --> 00:21:13,280
that know a lot about this topic and

621
00:21:15,669 --> 00:21:15,039
know how to talk about it in a way that

622
00:21:19,270 --> 00:21:15,679
abc

623
00:21:21,190 --> 00:21:19,280
cbs fox msnbc the new yorker

624
00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:21,200
don't know how to talk about because

625
00:21:25,430 --> 00:21:22,559
there's going to be a moment where

626
00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:25,440
people are going to go [\h__\h] i need to

627
00:21:30,070 --> 00:21:28,240
find out as much about this as i can

628
00:21:31,430 --> 00:21:30,080
and they're going to go to youtube

629
00:21:31,830 --> 00:21:31,440
that's the first place they're going to

630
00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:31,840
go

631
00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:33,760
and i hope it's channels like yours

632
00:21:36,870 --> 00:21:34,960
channels like mine channels like

633
00:21:39,029 --> 00:21:36,880
christina's channels like michael's

634
00:21:40,630 --> 00:21:39,039
um you know that that all the all these

635
00:21:41,029 --> 00:21:40,640
people that i always have on my show i

636
00:21:44,149 --> 00:21:41,039
want

637
00:21:47,669 --> 00:21:44,159
them to

638
00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:47,679
grow as fast as i do because i'm going

639
00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:50,000
to need as much help as i can

640
00:21:53,750 --> 00:21:52,400
when all of these people are rushing to

641
00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:53,760
us for the data

642
00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:55,840
and the explanations and the and the

643
00:22:00,390 --> 00:21:58,080
more nuanced explanations that

644
00:22:01,909 --> 00:22:00,400
you're not gonna get in a two-minute

645
00:22:05,190 --> 00:22:01,919
news bite

646
00:22:06,870 --> 00:22:05,200
so you know but to you know to go back

647
00:22:08,710 --> 00:22:06,880
and answer your question like dude the

648
00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:08,720
whole point of this channel was to hold

649
00:22:13,350 --> 00:22:11,039
these productions feet to the fire

650
00:22:15,510 --> 00:22:13,360
and really look at james fox's movie and

651
00:22:17,190 --> 00:22:15,520
really look at jeremy corbell's movie

652
00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:17,200
and really look at these you know like

653
00:22:20,310 --> 00:22:18,960
the history of skinwalker ranch or the

654
00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:20,320
secret to skinwalker ranch

655
00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:22,320
or any of these productions that are you

656
00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:24,799
know hoisted that's these game-changing

657
00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:25,440
things and

658
00:22:28,789 --> 00:22:27,200
it's like wait a second there's some

659
00:22:30,230 --> 00:22:28,799
production issues here sure there are

660
00:22:31,990 --> 00:22:30,240
some wonderful things

661
00:22:33,270 --> 00:22:32,000
there are some not so wonderful things

662
00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:33,280
but we're going to give it a score and

663
00:22:36,390 --> 00:22:34,240
we're going to be trying

664
00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:36,400
try and be as neutral as possible and i

665
00:22:40,710 --> 00:22:38,400
think i failed at the neutrality part of

666
00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:40,720
that when i was first reviewing things

667
00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:43,360
because i was getting angry because a

668
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:45,200
lot of the things that i was starting to

669
00:22:48,070 --> 00:22:45,840
find

670
00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:48,080
were going against my belief system and

671
00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:50,480
i was like ah this doesn't work with how

672
00:22:53,590 --> 00:22:51,600
i think ah

673
00:22:55,350 --> 00:22:53,600
it was hurting my brain and i was

674
00:22:55,830 --> 00:22:55,360
getting angry and those and the anger

675
00:22:58,470 --> 00:22:55,840
sign up

676
00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:58,480
sometimes leaked into like conspiracy

677
00:23:01,590 --> 00:22:59,200
theory

678
00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:01,600
you know and so i had to i had to that

679
00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:03,600
all ended when i started bringing people

680
00:23:06,630 --> 00:23:04,799
on the show right now where you're

681
00:23:10,149 --> 00:23:06,640
pinning all the things you know

682
00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:10,159
um but like i was i was convinced

683
00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:12,000
you know that this whole louis lozando

684
00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:13,440
christopher mellon thing was

685
00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:16,320
a psyops it was a way to get funding for

686
00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:18,240
a space force that is coming

687
00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:20,799
and and and the proposed budget for this

688
00:23:25,270 --> 00:23:23,520
space force is the combined budget of

689
00:23:26,710 --> 00:23:25,280
all forces of the five branches of the

690
00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:26,720
military that we have right now

691
00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:29,120
we would have to combine all of that

692
00:23:33,669 --> 00:23:29,919
double it

693
00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:33,679
to start a space force let alone

694
00:23:37,909 --> 00:23:35,520
fund it so you're talking about this

695
00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:37,919
military industrial complex takes up

696
00:23:44,549 --> 00:23:41,440
56 of our budget you're talking about

697
00:23:46,390 --> 00:23:44,559
doubling that how are you gonna do that

698
00:23:47,669 --> 00:23:46,400
yeah by selling to people that there's

699
00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:47,679
an alien threat

700
00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:50,960
yeah and so when i when i heard the atip

701
00:23:56,070 --> 00:23:54,000
acronym the word threat really set alarm

702
00:23:59,350 --> 00:23:56,080
bells off in my head and they made me

703
00:24:01,669 --> 00:23:59,360
angry because our generation

704
00:24:02,789 --> 00:24:01,679
the and you're my people so i know you

705
00:24:05,110 --> 00:24:02,799
live through this

706
00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:05,120
in the 80s it was the soviets and

707
00:24:08,710 --> 00:24:07,360
communism and nuclear war and the cold

708
00:24:11,269 --> 00:24:08,720
war

709
00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:11,279
in the 90s it was saddam hussein and we

710
00:24:16,230 --> 00:24:11,840
got a

711
00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:16,240
it was um

712
00:24:19,269 --> 00:24:18,640
kuwait or i can't remember kuwait they

713
00:24:22,870 --> 00:24:19,279
went

714
00:24:23,269 --> 00:24:22,880
and then we had to raid saudi arabia we

715
00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:23,279
never

716
00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:26,000
finished the job then 9 11 happened then

717
00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:27,840
we went and finished the job and now

718
00:24:30,789 --> 00:24:28,480
we're still

719
00:24:33,269 --> 00:24:30,799
there and it's and we don't have health

720
00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:33,279
care we don't have child care

721
00:24:37,990 --> 00:24:36,159
we don't have roads that are are built

722
00:24:41,590 --> 00:24:38,000
in a proper function

723
00:24:44,630 --> 00:24:41,600
we we still consume this this dying

724
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:44,640
energy source that is finite

725
00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:46,799
and there's so many issues here and i

726
00:24:52,710 --> 00:24:49,120
look at this 56 percent of the budget

727
00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:52,720
and i go yeah i can cut 35

728
00:24:56,710 --> 00:24:55,600
of that and i can put it in the science

729
00:25:00,310 --> 00:24:56,720
no for no

730
00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:00,320
no 35 put it in the science put it in

731
00:25:05,269 --> 00:25:02,640
education put in the healthcare put it

732
00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:05,279
into all of these things infrastructure

733
00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:08,720
um you know like all of these things

734
00:25:12,390 --> 00:25:09,440
that we are

735
00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:12,400
dying this country is dying for put out

736
00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:15,200
a ubi take care of the people who can't

737
00:25:19,110 --> 00:25:17,120
afford to take care of themselves

738
00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:19,120
yes that includes the poorest people in

739
00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:20,480
the in the country

740
00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:23,039
yes i know that sounds crazy but you

741
00:25:27,430 --> 00:25:25,120
can't have socialistic things

742
00:25:28,950 --> 00:25:27,440
and also live in a capitalistic society

743
00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:28,960
those things can exist this is what we

744
00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:30,000
were just talking about on mike's

745
00:25:32,070 --> 00:25:31,279
channel maybe this is why i'm going

746
00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:32,080
there sorry

747
00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:34,960
but anyway that's why more questions

748
00:25:42,630 --> 00:25:35,440
this

749
00:25:43,510 --> 00:25:42,640
to be political still stay very very

750
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:43,520
political

751
00:25:47,350 --> 00:25:46,320
but do it in a very bipartisan way

752
00:25:50,390 --> 00:25:47,360
because

753
00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:50,400
this topic the uap ufo

754
00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:54,720
topic is a topic that independent

755
00:26:01,669 --> 00:25:57,840
republican democrat christian

756
00:26:03,990 --> 00:26:01,679
muslim chinese japanese does not

757
00:26:05,029 --> 00:26:04,000
matter dude who you are where you are in

758
00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:05,039
the world

759
00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:06,559
you're going to be interested in this

760
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:08,080
topic especially if

761
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:10,080
your authorities tell you hey there's

762
00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:11,760
something to look at here

763
00:26:15,190 --> 00:26:13,919
you know also and not just interest but

764
00:26:16,789 --> 00:26:15,200
it affects

765
00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:16,799
everybody this is the biggest this is

766
00:26:24,070 --> 00:26:22,310
the fact that we're all talking about it

767
00:26:25,269 --> 00:26:24,080
now and it's it seems like a much more

768
00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:25,279
open

769
00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:28,320
conversation without a doubt but

770
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:30,880
it's out it does it touches literally

771
00:26:33,269 --> 00:26:31,919
everything joe you're

772
00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:33,279
you're you're about to say something a

773
00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:34,720
little bit ago what were you gonna say

774
00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:35,039
oh

775
00:26:42,549 --> 00:26:37,360
he had said uh chinese japanese and i

776
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:45,669
i was like why am i going to this song

777
00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:47,039
also i was going to ask you dude you

778
00:26:50,950 --> 00:26:49,120
know who uh michael stratt is

779
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:50,960
michael schrad the name sounds familiar

780
00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:53,120
but i don't he's badass if you're

781
00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:54,559
worried about where your tax money is

782
00:27:00,390 --> 00:26:56,960
going and like secret space force [\h__\h]

783
00:27:01,190 --> 00:27:00,400
listen to michael schratt he is a a plus

784
00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:01,200
pro

785
00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:03,200
on that and then i will check it out so

786
00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:04,640
i was gonna say uh

787
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:07,520
dude i i think yeah our our tax money is

788
00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:08,000
going

789
00:27:12,789 --> 00:27:10,480
into stuff like that but also i think a

790
00:27:15,510 --> 00:27:12,799
lot of that [\h__\h] is monopoly money

791
00:27:17,110 --> 00:27:15,520
like i don't think you know well they're

792
00:27:19,029 --> 00:27:17,120
printing it they're printing it at an

793
00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:19,039
insane rate

794
00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:23,440
one of america's best exports is cash

795
00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:26,640
yeah yeah i think they've been doing

796
00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:28,320
the space force thing dude i think has

797
00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:30,240
been around a lot longer than we all

798
00:27:34,549 --> 00:27:31,520
think it has been

799
00:27:37,669 --> 00:27:34,559
um and it's been funded by

800
00:27:41,190 --> 00:27:37,679
taxpayer money and not taxpayer money

801
00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:42,870
it's it's it's kind of a sticky

802
00:27:48,149 --> 00:27:44,640
situation but i think

803
00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:48,159
you know

804
00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:49,840
if they wanted to do it and there was no

805
00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:51,760
taxpayer money to do it they would do it

806
00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:52,960
anyways

807
00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:55,039
yeah but here's the thing man is you're

808
00:28:02,070 --> 00:28:00,470
if they started a space force it would

809
00:28:05,510 --> 00:28:02,080
be incredibly difficult

810
00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:05,520
to hide that money almost impossible

811
00:28:09,909 --> 00:28:08,320
you're talking about at least at least

812
00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:09,919
six to 800

813
00:28:14,470 --> 00:28:12,240
billion dollars that's just not

814
00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:14,480
something you can just

815
00:28:18,389 --> 00:28:16,240
goes away like there are so many

816
00:28:20,149 --> 00:28:18,399
committees and subcommittees that check

817
00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:20,159
on those checks and balances like i know

818
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:21,840
that sounds crazy

819
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:23,440
like oh there's no way that our

820
00:28:27,669 --> 00:28:24,880
government is like they're actually

821
00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:27,679
doing their job like if there was 800

822
00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:30,720
billion dollars missing from the budget

823
00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:34,320
and then and we found out that

824
00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:36,240
where that money went to because there

825
00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:37,440
has to be dude

826
00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:39,279
i don't care how dark it is there's

827
00:28:43,269 --> 00:28:41,600
receipts every time

828
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:43,279
every time they all went down and

829
00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:44,880
building nine bro

830
00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:47,840
maybe maybe i mean i all the paper

831
00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:49,360
receipts at least

832
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:51,520
yeah i mean like i know there was uh

833
00:28:56,230 --> 00:28:52,720
there was a huge

834
00:28:58,710 --> 00:28:56,240
loss of wealth the day after 9 11

835
00:29:00,470 --> 00:28:58,720
um or it was the day before there was

836
00:29:01,590 --> 00:29:00,480
something that broke with dick cheney

837
00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:01,600
and it was i i

838
00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:03,440
i don't want to say anymore because i i

839
00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:05,200
know i'm getting the story wrong

840
00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:06,960
dick cheney's probably listening dude oh

841
00:29:10,389 --> 00:29:08,240
he's he's one of them

842
00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:10,399
i mean dude i think that dick cheney

843
00:29:13,990 --> 00:29:12,159
bush regime is the worst

844
00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:14,000
presidential combination in american

845
00:29:18,310 --> 00:29:15,200
history okay

846
00:29:19,669 --> 00:29:18,320
okay so i man i'm sorry i just uh

847
00:29:20,789 --> 00:29:19,679
no let's get about this question man

848
00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:20,799
because we're we're getting into this

849
00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:22,480
like political thing and like yeah it's

850
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:23,520
exo-political man

851
00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:26,159
i love it and and what i really want to

852
00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:28,000
get to man and i want you to tell your

853
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:30,080
experience story maybe after you

854
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:31,760
if you want to answer this question is

855
00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:33,840
like yeah i feel like our so

856
00:29:37,590 --> 00:29:35,279
joe and i when we started this podcast

857
00:29:39,909 --> 00:29:37,600
we we have always just been interested

858
00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:39,919
in okay well number one we we've always

859
00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:41,279
had a feeling like this has been

860
00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:42,320
happening to us

861
00:29:46,789 --> 00:29:44,559
like this is ufos have been here there's

862
00:29:49,269 --> 00:29:46,799
aliens like that's

863
00:29:50,549 --> 00:29:49,279
easy to accept for for us and then you

864
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:50,559
know we start talking about that and

865
00:29:54,149 --> 00:29:51,360
then we start

866
00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:54,159
searching for for truth and proof and i

867
00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:55,679
feel like that's where a lot of people

868
00:29:58,710 --> 00:29:56,640
are right now we're

869
00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:58,720
we're searching for that where is it on

870
00:30:01,510 --> 00:30:00,240
paper where you said receipts earlier

871
00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:01,520
where are those receipts

872
00:30:08,070 --> 00:30:05,279
right uh and i feel like the the logical

873
00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:08,080
step is the next step is to look at who

874
00:30:10,310 --> 00:30:09,520
joe you said it best earlier when we

875
00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:10,320
were talking about this

876
00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:12,559
like who's it happening to who is this

877
00:30:15,669 --> 00:30:13,840
happening to it's not just

878
00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:15,679
the american soil and the military but

879
00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:17,440
it's it's people that that are being

880
00:30:20,389 --> 00:30:18,559
abducted and

881
00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:20,399
seeing these sightings so maybe you can

882
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:22,480
start with your your personal story and

883
00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:22,960
maybe

884
00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:26,399
comment on like yeah well i mean

885
00:30:31,190 --> 00:30:29,440
look man it's it's you know i i

886
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:31,200
i always tell people don't take your

887
00:30:34,549 --> 00:30:32,799
personal story to a senator or

888
00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:34,559
congressman so let me start there before

889
00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:35,760
i say anything

890
00:30:39,029 --> 00:30:38,080
you know like my personal story does not

891
00:30:40,389 --> 00:30:39,039
matter to them

892
00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:40,399
they don't care they don't want to hear

893
00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:42,559
it and i think we need to formulate the

894
00:30:45,269 --> 00:30:43,360
uh

895
00:30:47,029 --> 00:30:45,279
the requests and the argument to our

896
00:30:50,789 --> 00:30:47,039
elected representatives

897
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:50,799
in a very um political manner

898
00:30:53,990 --> 00:30:52,320
yeah the way they understand it like

899
00:30:55,350 --> 00:30:54,000
cahill say it on my show if you're going

900
00:30:56,630 --> 00:30:55,360
to talk about ice cream i want us to

901
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:56,640
hear it from ben and jerry if you're

902
00:30:59,990 --> 00:30:58,480
going to talk about military stuff i

903
00:31:01,590 --> 00:31:00,000
want to hear from a general

904
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:01,600
you know like and i expect those things

905
00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:03,120
to come out of the mouths of the people

906
00:31:07,750 --> 00:31:04,000
that are in those

907
00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:07,760
so with that said um

908
00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:10,000
i was 13 dude you know i was just at a

909
00:31:13,909 --> 00:31:12,240
party on like a little house

910
00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:13,919
not a little house but on a house that

911
00:31:17,110 --> 00:31:15,519
had like

912
00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:17,120
uh i don't know it's like three or four

913
00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:19,200
acres out in the middle florida

914
00:31:22,710 --> 00:31:22,000
cool you know it was almost it used to

915
00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:22,720
it was

916
00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:26,240
everglades back

917
00:31:31,029 --> 00:31:29,760
in that day in 93. oh yeah constrictors

918
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:31,039
everywhere

919
00:31:34,950 --> 00:31:33,840
gators snakes you know um it there was a

920
00:31:38,549 --> 00:31:34,960
lot of swamps

921
00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:38,559
the roads were super tiny um now

922
00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:40,720
it's developed it's it's a lot of it is

923
00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:42,399
gone but that dirt road

924
00:31:45,509 --> 00:31:44,320
that i saw this on in the house that

925
00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:45,519
that i was at

926
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:48,640
is still there um it's just the farm or

927
00:31:56,630 --> 00:31:48,960
the

928
00:31:59,190 --> 00:31:56,640
uh um real estate um

929
00:32:00,950 --> 00:31:59,200
but yeah but it was it back in the day

930
00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:00,960
where i used to live it was

931
00:32:04,630 --> 00:32:03,840
you could drive 10 or 15 minutes and you

932
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:04,640
were in

933
00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:08,000
pure darkness like it was the everglades

934
00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:10,960
okay yeah um and that is just the one of

935
00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:12,880
the biggest swamps on the planet

936
00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:16,240
and so um in

937
00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:18,240
in the edges of that there used to be

938
00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:20,000
these developments that were

939
00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:22,240
multi-acre developments they sat you

940
00:32:24,149 --> 00:32:23,519
know where there was not a lot of light

941
00:32:25,990 --> 00:32:24,159
pollution

942
00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:26,000
not a lot of noise or traffic anything

943
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:28,000
like that and so that's where this

944
00:32:31,909 --> 00:32:30,559
party was it was a my best friend

945
00:32:34,310 --> 00:32:31,919
invited me to this party

946
00:32:36,070 --> 00:32:34,320
we went it was this girl's like 13th

947
00:32:38,470 --> 00:32:36,080
birthday party i don't even remember her

948
00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:38,480
name i didn't even really know her

949
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:41,039
and um and it was the first party that

950
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:42,000
my parents

951
00:32:46,149 --> 00:32:44,799
let me go to without their supervision

952
00:32:47,669 --> 00:32:46,159
and it was a party that

953
00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:47,679
like started at four o'clock in the

954
00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:49,200
afternoon which meant it was gonna go to

955
00:32:52,389 --> 00:32:49,760
at least

956
00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:52,399
eight you know like i was gonna be out

957
00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:52,880
past

958
00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:55,200
night and and my best friend's mom was

959
00:32:58,549 --> 00:32:56,720
going to drive us home

960
00:32:59,830 --> 00:32:58,559
and you know they were just like just

961
00:33:00,470 --> 00:32:59,840
give us the phone number to where you're

962
00:33:02,389 --> 00:33:00,480
going to be

963
00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:02,399
and tell us you know exactly where it's

964
00:33:05,269 --> 00:33:04,000
at and and we're good actually i think

965
00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:05,279
they dropped me off there

966
00:33:08,549 --> 00:33:07,760
and then and then my my parent my best

967
00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:08,559
friend's

968
00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:12,080
mom picked us up and and at some point

969
00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:13,600
it later in the party like

970
00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:16,640
i'd say it was like 8 30 9 o'clock um

971
00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:19,840
one of the girls from the party was was

972
00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:22,960
out in in the grassy

973
00:33:27,909 --> 00:33:26,080
big part of the yard like it was away

974
00:33:29,509 --> 00:33:27,919
from the party she was about 75 yards

975
00:33:30,549 --> 00:33:29,519
and she's just looking in the sky like

976
00:33:32,310 --> 00:33:30,559
this

977
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:32,320
and so me my friend saw her and we're

978
00:33:34,710 --> 00:33:33,760
like that's weird let's go over there

979
00:33:35,909 --> 00:33:34,720
and talk to her

980
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:35,919
and we're like hey what are you looking

981
00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:37,600
at and she just points in the sky and we

982
00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:38,080
see this

983
00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:40,720
light and it's got like a greenish hue

984
00:33:44,470 --> 00:33:41,360
to it

985
00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:44,480
and um and then the next thing i

986
00:33:47,909 --> 00:33:46,080
remember i can't remember because this

987
00:33:49,990 --> 00:33:47,919
is 27 years ago so

988
00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:50,000
i ca it's hard for me to trust these

989
00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:51,279
memories and that's why

990
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:53,600
i it's not that i don't like telling

991
00:33:57,029 --> 00:33:54,320
this story

992
00:33:58,149 --> 00:33:57,039
it's just like it's it's not something

993
00:34:00,070 --> 00:33:58,159
that

994
00:34:01,509 --> 00:34:00,080
i advertise all the time you know what i

995
00:34:04,230 --> 00:34:01,519
mean um but

996
00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:04,240
so but the next thing i remember was the

997
00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:06,000
thing was

998
00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:09,839
300 yards away from us and it was

999
00:34:14,869 --> 00:34:12,800
the size of two buses school buses

1000
00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:14,879
stacked on top of one another

1001
00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:18,960
and it was just silent dude it was just

1002
00:34:23,030 --> 00:34:19,359
like

1003
00:34:25,430 --> 00:34:23,040
structure

1004
00:34:26,950 --> 00:34:25,440
there was a struck like a nuts and bolts

1005
00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:26,960
aspect to it

1006
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:30,079
um it was it was metal but it was almost

1007
00:34:33,750 --> 00:34:31,200
as if the metal

1008
00:34:34,310 --> 00:34:33,760
itself was glowing i can't even explain

1009
00:34:43,990 --> 00:34:34,320
it

1010
00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:44,000
i don't know where that painting is but

1011
00:34:47,349 --> 00:34:45,359
like it's

1012
00:34:48,470 --> 00:34:47,359
the worst painting i've ever done it's

1013
00:34:50,629 --> 00:34:48,480
so bad

1014
00:34:52,550 --> 00:34:50,639
um and i don't think it does what i saw

1015
00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:52,560
any justice like i would love to explain

1016
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:54,320
it to someone who renders things and

1017
00:34:57,670 --> 00:34:54,720
maybe

1018
00:34:59,589 --> 00:34:57,680
yeah sort of but think of it as like um

1019
00:35:01,990 --> 00:34:59,599
the best way i remembered it was like if

1020
00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:02,000
you took like a breakfast bowl

1021
00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:04,960
right and then you you could make that

1022
00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:06,000
the exact same

1023
00:35:09,430 --> 00:35:08,880
shape but a little bit bigger like maybe

1024
00:35:17,670 --> 00:35:09,440
a

1025
00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:17,680
description i don't know why i never

1026
00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:18,480
thought of that

1027
00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:20,400
just like a lemon but the top half of

1028
00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:22,560
the lemon is a little bigger

1029
00:35:27,030 --> 00:35:24,880
okay um that would be the only thing god

1030
00:35:28,710 --> 00:35:27,040
damn dude that's a great description

1031
00:35:30,790 --> 00:35:28,720
i can't believe i never thought of that

1032
00:35:32,950 --> 00:35:30,800
yeah but it was green so it's a lime

1033
00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:32,960
oh yeah there you go it was a lime it

1034
00:35:36,710 --> 00:35:34,640
was like a lime yeah

1035
00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:36,720
sprite dude i never thought of it that

1036
00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:38,160
way that's a great description i think

1037
00:35:40,710 --> 00:35:39,680
i'll use that for the rest of my life

1038
00:35:43,510 --> 00:35:40,720
now thank you

1039
00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:43,520
um but yeah dude so it was it and then

1040
00:35:48,470 --> 00:35:46,000
all of a sudden when it was there

1041
00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:48,480
that's when we were like oh my god like

1042
00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:50,000
all of us were like

1043
00:35:53,990 --> 00:35:53,200
look like yelling to the party come over

1044
00:35:56,950 --> 00:35:54,000
here

1045
00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:56,960
and so they all like adults children

1046
00:36:01,670 --> 00:35:58,560
there must have been you know

1047
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:01,680
50 at least 15 20 30 people again this

1048
00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:03,760
is where my memory gets

1049
00:36:09,990 --> 00:36:07,760
real you know like like 13 14

1050
00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:10,000
i mean you guys are not little children

1051
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:11,440
that make stuff up in their head you're

1052
00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:12,720
obviously conscious enough

1053
00:36:16,310 --> 00:36:15,520
no no i remember i remember before i st

1054
00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:16,320
before i

1055
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:18,480
before we started calling people over i

1056
00:36:21,670 --> 00:36:19,680
remember

1057
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:21,680
going through my rolodex because you got

1058
00:36:25,670 --> 00:36:22,880
to remember dude at

1059
00:36:25,990 --> 00:36:25,680
i was in the ufos i read the books at

1060
00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:26,000
this

1061
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:28,400
point and one of the books i had read

1062
00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:30,480
was the gulf breeze sightings

1063
00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:32,240
it turned out that that book was all

1064
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:33,760
[\h__\h] but that

1065
00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:36,480
craft was very that was the closest

1066
00:36:40,150 --> 00:36:38,320
thing that i could compare it to

1067
00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:40,160
was that the picture of the craft in

1068
00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:41,760
that book even though that's a

1069
00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:44,640
fake craft but that's the thing and i

1070
00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:45,280
remember

1071
00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:48,240
going through my rolodex i've seen the

1072
00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:49,119
goodyear blimp

1073
00:36:54,790 --> 00:36:52,240
i've seen airplanes fly over our house i

1074
00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:54,800
i this is not a helicopter i can't hear

1075
00:36:58,950 --> 00:36:55,280
it

1076
00:37:01,030 --> 00:36:58,960
things

1077
00:37:02,550 --> 00:37:01,040
and then when i came to the conclusion

1078
00:37:04,470 --> 00:37:02,560
that i came to

1079
00:37:06,069 --> 00:37:04,480
that's when i started yelling at people

1080
00:37:07,109 --> 00:37:06,079
and going you guys need to come over

1081
00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:07,119
here come over here

1082
00:37:11,349 --> 00:37:09,040
like we were yelling at the top of our

1083
00:37:13,430 --> 00:37:11,359
lungs and then everybody came over

1084
00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:13,440
and it was like oh my god that's all you

1085
00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:15,359
heard was oh my god

1086
00:37:22,150 --> 00:37:18,640
what is that right everybody was

1087
00:37:25,109 --> 00:37:22,160
just flipping out adults okay i

1088
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:25,119
visually remember that and then and then

1089
00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:27,040
i said to myself

1090
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:29,680
i need to get closer to it i need to see

1091
00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:30,640
it better

1092
00:37:38,470 --> 00:37:36,790
trying to use okay perfect here we go it

1093
00:37:41,670 --> 00:37:38,480
was like

1094
00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:41,680
this is the fields like over here

1095
00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:44,240
and then the the the dirt road that

1096
00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:46,800
lined out that went to the main road

1097
00:37:50,150 --> 00:37:49,520
was was was the dirt road that lined up

1098
00:37:53,589 --> 00:37:50,160
against

1099
00:37:55,349 --> 00:37:53,599
the cow pasture okay so i wanted to get

1100
00:37:57,589 --> 00:37:55,359
to that fence line

1101
00:37:58,870 --> 00:37:57,599
to get a better look but i had to run

1102
00:38:01,750 --> 00:37:58,880
about 75

1103
00:38:03,910 --> 00:38:01,760
yards to get around this part of the

1104
00:38:05,349 --> 00:38:03,920
yard that also had fencing and go around

1105
00:38:08,390 --> 00:38:05,359
another thing of the fence

1106
00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:08,400
and as i'm running i'm looking at it

1107
00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:11,280
and it's getting blocked out by trees

1108
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:13,200
that line the road

1109
00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:14,960
and by the time i got to the fence it

1110
00:38:18,790 --> 00:38:16,560
was gone it went behind

1111
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:18,800
i lost it behind some trees and when i

1112
00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:20,079
and then when i finally made it to the

1113
00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:21,680
fence it was just gone

1114
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:24,880
damn and i don't remember um

1115
00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:27,040
anybody telling me how it left or what

1116
00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:28,320
it looked like when it

1117
00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:31,040
i don't remember that part of it um but

1118
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:32,800
that's that's the story

1119
00:38:37,349 --> 00:38:35,440
you know so i love it i love that that

1120
00:38:39,109 --> 00:38:37,359
happened at 13.

1121
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:39,119
you know like i wasn't smoking pot or

1122
00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:41,200
doing drugs like my stepdad at that

1123
00:38:45,270 --> 00:38:43,280
point was a police officer like

1124
00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:45,280
you know i wasn't into drinking like

1125
00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:47,440
that i don't drink now as an adult like

1126
00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:50,880
it's not my thing um but yeah dude

1127
00:38:54,390 --> 00:38:52,560
it's something that's just burned into

1128
00:38:55,349 --> 00:38:54,400
my into my memory and here's the thing

1129
00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:55,359
right

1130
00:39:01,430 --> 00:38:58,400
even with that i can

1131
00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:01,440
sit back and go

1132
00:39:05,190 --> 00:39:04,560
maybe i was wrong you know maybe i'm

1133
00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:05,200
just

1134
00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:08,640
my memory is not serving me as well as i

1135
00:39:11,829 --> 00:39:09,920
think

1136
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:11,839
but i do remember all of these adults

1137
00:39:15,109 --> 00:39:12,960
also

1138
00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:15,119
being completely shocked by what we were

1139
00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:16,240
looking at

1140
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:19,760
yeah definitely so i mean do you think

1141
00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:21,040
do you think sometimes we're a little

1142
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:23,599
hard on ourselves when you see something

1143
00:39:27,510 --> 00:39:25,760
you cannot explain

1144
00:39:28,790 --> 00:39:27,520
uh and nobody else around you can

1145
00:39:30,950 --> 00:39:28,800
explain it either

1146
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:30,960
like it doesn't necessarily have to mean

1147
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:32,880
that you're crazy and i hope whoever's

1148
00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:34,800
out there listening right now

1149
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:37,440
you know really hears this because now

1150
00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:37,920
when you

1151
00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:44,720
you have to believe yourself yeah you

1152
00:39:47,750 --> 00:39:45,359
know

1153
00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:47,760
well sometimes i loved i loved listening

1154
00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:49,440
to christopher mellon's

1155
00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:50,960
um i don't know if you guys heard him on

1156
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:53,200
the rogan podcast but he described a

1157
00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:55,200
bear encounter

1158
00:40:01,589 --> 00:39:58,480
like even

1159
00:40:02,470 --> 00:40:01,599
in the middle of that he was questioning

1160
00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:02,480
himself

1161
00:40:05,829 --> 00:40:05,280
okay is this actually happening yeah you

1162
00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:05,839
know and

1163
00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:08,480
and i and he's never had an ex personal

1164
00:40:12,550 --> 00:40:10,000
experience christopher mellon he said

1165
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:12,560
he's seen some crazy things on film

1166
00:40:18,790 --> 00:40:16,240
um but that

1167
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:18,800
explanation of him seeing that bear i

1168
00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:20,160
was like

1169
00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:22,240
that's exactly what my ufo experience

1170
00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:23,200
was like

1171
00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:27,040
believe what i'm seeing and then when i

1172
00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:28,240
rushed home

1173
00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:31,040
and i told my parents i woke them up

1174
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:32,720
like they were just about like just

1175
00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:33,760
getting asleep

1176
00:40:37,990 --> 00:40:35,760
my sister was sleeping my little brother

1177
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:38,000
was sleeping i woke up the entire

1178
00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:40,000
house and i was screaming at the top of

1179
00:40:42,790 --> 00:40:42,000
my lungs like you would not believe what

1180
00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:42,800
i saw

1181
00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:45,359
you just wouldn't believe it mom mom you

1182
00:40:48,150 --> 00:40:46,240
got to hear me

1183
00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:48,160
we got to go back i got to show you

1184
00:40:51,670 --> 00:40:49,599
they're like we're not going back

1185
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:51,680
like we're not going anywhere like go to

1186
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:53,040
bed um

1187
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:55,680
and they they i don't even know if they

1188
00:40:59,589 --> 00:40:56,880
remember that

1189
00:40:59,990 --> 00:40:59,599
um you know i i i just want to comment

1190
00:41:02,309 --> 00:41:00,000
like

1191
00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:02,319
the the level of discernment i think is

1192
00:41:05,910 --> 00:41:03,119
the right term

1193
00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:05,920
that to use when you're like you're

1194
00:41:10,390 --> 00:41:07,920
open-minded enough to believe that

1195
00:41:12,710 --> 00:41:10,400
yes that is what i saw also i could be

1196
00:41:15,589 --> 00:41:12,720
wrong i think that's a healthy balance

1197
00:41:17,349 --> 00:41:15,599
i have to you have to do that to to keep

1198
00:41:18,630 --> 00:41:17,359
yourself sane and also not sound like a

1199
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:18,640
crazy person and

1200
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:20,400
not you know when somebody comes out

1201
00:41:24,230 --> 00:41:22,720
saying the sky is falling this guy is

1202
00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:24,240
falling like

1203
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:26,880
[\h__\h] when i hear that on movies like i

1204
00:41:31,270 --> 00:41:28,480
used to think like oh that's just the

1205
00:41:32,309 --> 00:41:31,280
hollywood's portrayal of a of an insane

1206
00:41:34,390 --> 00:41:32,319
person but

1207
00:41:36,710 --> 00:41:34,400
i think nowadays it's like i take that

1208
00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:36,720
analogy i think it's

1209
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:38,160
there's there's a lesson there where

1210
00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:39,760
there's like there's there's some people

1211
00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:40,640
that

1212
00:41:44,390 --> 00:41:42,640
can go a little too far and put all

1213
00:41:46,790 --> 00:41:44,400
their eggs in one basket

1214
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:46,800
and proclaim it off of the side of a

1215
00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:47,760
mountain which

1216
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:49,200
i think the feeling is always going to

1217
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:51,040
be there when you have this experience

1218
00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:52,720
that is very real and you know that it

1219
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:53,359
happened

1220
00:41:56,630 --> 00:41:55,440
but i think it's almost like it would be

1221
00:41:59,829 --> 00:41:56,640
a disservice to yourself

1222
00:42:02,309 --> 00:41:59,839
in your society not to allow

1223
00:42:04,069 --> 00:42:02,319
a little bit of wiggle room for the

1224
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:04,079
possibility of like okay

1225
00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:07,680
i don't have like a perfect memory we're

1226
00:42:10,630 --> 00:42:08,960
all human here like

1227
00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:10,640
there's there's a little that and that

1228
00:42:14,790 --> 00:42:12,640
also gives it the the

1229
00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:14,800
the incidents a little bit more trust

1230
00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:16,160
for other people well

1231
00:42:20,550 --> 00:42:18,480
i the the only reason why i think of of

1232
00:42:20,950 --> 00:42:20,560
of that is for this and then i gotta

1233
00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:20,960
step

1234
00:42:24,309 --> 00:42:22,720
out for like three or four minutes we

1235
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:24,319
talked about it yeah you told us yeah um

1236
00:42:26,470 --> 00:42:25,680
and then i'll be right back but what i

1237
00:42:30,069 --> 00:42:26,480
will leave you with

1238
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:30,079
is neil degrasse tyson is the one who

1239
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:31,760
got me to start thinking like that and

1240
00:42:36,150 --> 00:42:34,240
it was his explanation of the worst

1241
00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:36,160
do you know what the worst keeper of

1242
00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:42,630
the human brain the human brain it is

1243
00:42:49,030 --> 00:42:45,839
it has been proven to to not keep

1244
00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:49,040
memories correctly so i have to take

1245
00:42:52,630 --> 00:42:49,440
that

1246
00:42:53,589 --> 00:42:52,640
into i have to preface the conversation

1247
00:42:55,109 --> 00:42:53,599
with that

1248
00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:55,119
you know what i'm saying and i also

1249
00:43:00,630 --> 00:42:57,200
can't say i know

1250
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:00,640
what i saw i know

1251
00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:04,480
it was aliens because i don't i don't

1252
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:06,960
that sucks i i don't but here's the

1253
00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:07,520
thing

1254
00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:10,000
is if in five years after all of this

1255
00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:12,000
information has popped out and we know a

1256
00:43:17,109 --> 00:43:13,920
lot more stuff than we do today

1257
00:43:21,190 --> 00:43:17,119
and it turns out that it's a

1258
00:43:23,990 --> 00:43:21,200
uh a slip in in in

1259
00:43:25,589 --> 00:43:24,000
uh dimensions like that's like now a

1260
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:25,599
normal thing that we see

1261
00:43:30,550 --> 00:43:27,440
it happens it's almost as normal as

1262
00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:30,560
lightning and now we've explained it

1263
00:43:37,910 --> 00:43:36,150
great awesome i can move on with the

1264
00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:37,920
rest of my life now you know what i mean

1265
00:43:41,589 --> 00:43:38,480
like

1266
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:41,599
great great because now we know number

1267
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:42,480
one

1268
00:43:46,150 --> 00:43:45,119
we have extra dimensions you know and

1269
00:43:49,349 --> 00:43:46,160
number two

1270
00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:49,359
that you know it's i'm not crazy

1271
00:43:54,150 --> 00:43:52,480
yeah i'm not crazy you know so

1272
00:43:55,670 --> 00:43:54,160
i'll be back in like four minutes

1273
00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:55,680
awesome dude cool man

1274
00:44:03,589 --> 00:43:59,200
cool dude uh yeah dude i love that man

1275
00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:03,599
yeah yeah i mean yeah the brain is uh

1276
00:44:07,750 --> 00:44:06,480
is uh is a is a bad uh record keeper

1277
00:44:11,589 --> 00:44:07,760
like when it comes to time

1278
00:44:14,710 --> 00:44:11,599
right yeah i have a terrible memory

1279
00:44:18,069 --> 00:44:14,720
and memory but the initial

1280
00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:18,079
experience that happens that creates the

1281
00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:19,440
memory

1282
00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:22,560
that lasts through time yeah is i think

1283
00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:24,160
the focal point

1284
00:44:30,390 --> 00:44:27,440
of the whole conversation is like

1285
00:44:32,710 --> 00:44:30,400
what is that initial experience because

1286
00:44:36,069 --> 00:44:32,720
without the experience there's nothing

1287
00:44:37,670 --> 00:44:36,079
to have a timeline of or a memory of in

1288
00:44:39,109 --> 00:44:37,680
the first place

1289
00:44:40,829 --> 00:44:39,119
so if you're gonna have both of those

1290
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:40,839
things what was the

1291
00:44:46,390 --> 00:44:44,160
experience that happened you know

1292
00:44:48,470 --> 00:44:46,400
i mean like we were talking about that

1293
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:48,480
specific thing dude it's the baseline we

1294
00:44:52,870 --> 00:44:49,680
were talking about this before

1295
00:44:54,790 --> 00:44:52,880
lou came on like we

1296
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:54,800
we've always been interested in the

1297
00:44:58,710 --> 00:44:56,400
experience

1298
00:45:00,150 --> 00:44:58,720
first and then proving it later i feel

1299
00:45:03,270 --> 00:45:00,160
like there's just maybe that's

1300
00:45:04,870 --> 00:45:03,280
we're describing a different way of of

1301
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:04,880
people coping with

1302
00:45:09,270 --> 00:45:08,400
what's happening or or or realizing that

1303
00:45:12,069 --> 00:45:09,280
this thing is

1304
00:45:13,750 --> 00:45:12,079
is real and we're all we all know it too

1305
00:45:15,109 --> 00:45:13,760
i feel like we all know it some people

1306
00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:15,119
just choose to block it out and don't

1307
00:45:18,309 --> 00:45:16,400
want to talk about it

1308
00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:18,319
right but those of us who have

1309
00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:19,760
experienced something saw something they

1310
00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:21,760
can't explain

1311
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:25,040
what you're saying is yeah it's it's

1312
00:45:29,670 --> 00:45:26,400
what sticks in your mind

1313
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:29,680
forever it's burning i i can see my

1314
00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:31,520
experiences so clearly

1315
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:34,480
man i can't i can't tell you what i i

1316
00:45:37,750 --> 00:45:35,200
did

1317
00:45:38,470 --> 00:45:37,760
you know two weeks ago i can't tell you

1318
00:45:39,829 --> 00:45:38,480
i mean i have

1319
00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:39,839
really good memories of childhood with

1320
00:45:43,589 --> 00:45:41,760
my parents and my brothers and like

1321
00:45:44,790 --> 00:45:43,599
you know family and stuff but they're

1322
00:45:47,109 --> 00:45:44,800
like so fast

1323
00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:47,119
so little quick little flashes but right

1324
00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:48,720
experiences that i've had in this

1325
00:45:54,790 --> 00:45:51,200
experience you that i have had together

1326
00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:54,800
i i can see in hd dude like 4k

1327
00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:56,960
resolution i can remember that [\h__\h] and

1328
00:46:00,309 --> 00:45:58,319
that is saying something man

1329
00:46:01,430 --> 00:46:00,319
dude i was thinking about when we were

1330
00:46:04,150 --> 00:46:01,440
out in sedona

1331
00:46:05,109 --> 00:46:04,160
and we and we saw that crazy [\h__\h] in the

1332
00:46:07,109 --> 00:46:05,119
sky

1333
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:07,119
yeah i was thinking about how weird it

1334
00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:09,040
was that

1335
00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:10,720
when we got in the car we didn't really

1336
00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:12,400
talk about it

1337
00:46:17,030 --> 00:46:15,760
isn't that weird dude it is i

1338
00:46:19,589 --> 00:46:17,040
actually [\h__\h] i don't think we've ever

1339
00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:19,599
talked about this we never really talked

1340
00:46:22,309 --> 00:46:20,160
about it

1341
00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:22,319
i don't i don't ever remember us talking

1342
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:23,680
about it when we got in the car

1343
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:25,040
and then we got back to the ho then we

1344
00:46:27,589 --> 00:46:26,480
got back to the hotel and we were like

1345
00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:27,599
that was cool

1346
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:29,040
and then we were like let's make a big

1347
00:46:32,630 --> 00:46:30,880
deal out of it no and then we were like

1348
00:46:34,470 --> 00:46:32,640
let's watch that documentary and then we

1349
00:46:35,589 --> 00:46:34,480
were like maybe this might be too scary

1350
00:46:37,750 --> 00:46:35,599
before we go to bed

1351
00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:37,760
but we didn't even talk about what we

1352
00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:38,720
saw

1353
00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:41,760
yeah yeah oh whoa

1354
00:46:44,950 --> 00:46:43,359
dude i haven't thought about that yet oh

1355
00:46:45,589 --> 00:46:44,960
[\h__\h] i was thinking about that the other

1356
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:45,599
day

1357
00:46:49,750 --> 00:46:47,680
and how weird it was that we just got in

1358
00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:49,760
the car and like [\h__\h]

1359
00:46:52,870 --> 00:46:52,480
drove we turned music on and just drove

1360
00:46:55,589 --> 00:46:52,880
that

1361
00:46:57,270 --> 00:46:55,599
reminds me of kind of the the frame of

1362
00:46:58,710 --> 00:46:57,280
mind that terry lovelace was telling us

1363
00:47:01,510 --> 00:46:58,720
about where like

1364
00:47:02,069 --> 00:47:01,520
it's this this like an uninterested or

1365
00:47:04,069 --> 00:47:02,079
dis

1366
00:47:05,109 --> 00:47:04,079
interested kind of perspective where

1367
00:47:08,150 --> 00:47:05,119
like

1368
00:47:09,030 --> 00:47:08,160
there's just [\h__\h] going on but your

1369
00:47:11,589 --> 00:47:09,040
brain tells you

1370
00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:11,599
everything's cool and let's just

1371
00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:12,960
compartmentalize it for now and then

1372
00:47:16,390 --> 00:47:14,800
we'll talk about it later and yeah now

1373
00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:16,400
you're just now opening that up in my

1374
00:47:19,030 --> 00:47:17,760
head that the fact that we didn't even

1375
00:47:22,150 --> 00:47:19,040
[\h__\h] talk about it until

1376
00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:22,160
and and not to mention

1377
00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:24,800
we were like okay you about ready to go

1378
00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:26,880
and then we saw that [\h__\h] in the sky

1379
00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:28,960
yes and when we saw it we were like whoa

1380
00:47:33,910 --> 00:47:30,720
look at that that's neat

1381
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:37,190
normal dudes like us would be like

1382
00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:40,000
let's [\h__\h] stay here longer and see

1383
00:47:44,950 --> 00:47:41,520
what else we see

1384
00:47:48,470 --> 00:47:44,960
but like we just left after we

1385
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:48,480
ah dude we had been there

1386
00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:52,079
what seemed like 30 minutes

1387
00:47:56,309 --> 00:47:54,400
uh i just don't remember time that well

1388
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:56,319
i'm not saying we have any missing time

1389
00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:57,839
i'm just saying like

1390
00:48:03,190 --> 00:48:01,119
my vivid memory is of seeing those

1391
00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:03,200
well first the first one was it might

1392
00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:04,880
have been a plane and the second one was

1393
00:48:08,710 --> 00:48:06,720
definitely something

1394
00:48:11,270 --> 00:48:08,720
i've never seen before the flashing

1395
00:48:13,270 --> 00:48:11,280
little like hey what's up guys and then

1396
00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:13,280
showing up over here hey what's up guys

1397
00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:15,119
that was that was insane

1398
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:18,000
yeah um but i mean there was i remember

1399
00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:18,400
no

1400
00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:20,480
uh realizing at a certain point like

1401
00:48:24,309 --> 00:48:22,480
okay so what we're seeing

1402
00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:24,319
first off we got super stoked and it was

1403
00:48:28,069 --> 00:48:25,599
obviously a plane

1404
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:28,079
we were able to identify that as as a

1405
00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:29,200
plane

1406
00:48:35,109 --> 00:48:33,200
uh like the flashing lights and also

1407
00:48:36,950 --> 00:48:35,119
just yeah we could tell the difference

1408
00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:36,960
between all right we're looking at

1409
00:48:39,990 --> 00:48:38,400
planes coming in through this there's

1410
00:48:41,589 --> 00:48:40,000
obviously air traffic here

1411
00:48:43,589 --> 00:48:41,599
yeah and then and then seeing those

1412
00:48:46,950 --> 00:48:43,599
those red flashes those huge orange

1413
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:46,960
orangish red flashes which man

1414
00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:48,800
so anyway what i'm saying is i remember

1415
00:48:52,549 --> 00:48:50,160
those spots very

1416
00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:52,559
very well but i'm the amount of time i

1417
00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:53,359
couldn't tell you how

1418
00:48:56,790 --> 00:48:55,920
how long we stayed out there it wasn't

1419
00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:56,800
very long

1420
00:49:00,790 --> 00:48:59,680
yeah it was like 45 minutes that's not

1421
00:49:02,230 --> 00:49:00,800
that long see like

1422
00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:02,240
normally ben and joe would stay out

1423
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:04,480
there for like [\h__\h] four hours

1424
00:49:08,230 --> 00:49:06,960
especially if we're seeing [\h__\h] yeah and

1425
00:49:11,349 --> 00:49:08,240
then we saw it

1426
00:49:12,710 --> 00:49:11,359
and we were like you ready to go

1427
00:49:16,790 --> 00:49:12,720
and we got in the car and didn't even

1428
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:16,800
talk about it dude that's strange man

1429
00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:18,480
i have not thought about that until you

1430
00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:20,400
just mentioned that that's very weird

1431
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:23,760
uh ufo dad what's up ufo dad uh

1432
00:49:26,950 --> 00:49:25,520
we're uh were you guys in the estrella

1433
00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:26,960
mountains no we're in uh

1434
00:49:32,710 --> 00:49:30,400
uh a cathedral rock in sedona arizona

1435
00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:32,720
yeah magical place man we went you

1436
00:49:36,150 --> 00:49:33,920
remember we went yeah

1437
00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:36,160
uh those that listened to the podcast

1438
00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:38,319
often we we've told the story before but

1439
00:49:41,910 --> 00:49:40,160
you know in sedona uh we were there for

1440
00:49:43,990 --> 00:49:41,920
a conference but we decided to go to

1441
00:49:45,510 --> 00:49:44,000
uh the conference was in phoenix but we

1442
00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:45,520
decided to go to sedona

1443
00:49:48,950 --> 00:49:47,280
a couple days before or was it like a

1444
00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:48,960
day before and and

1445
00:49:52,390 --> 00:49:50,960
hike up hike up cathedral rock and you

1446
00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:52,400
were telling me about this vortex

1447
00:49:59,670 --> 00:49:56,240
thing man yeah so we hike up this

1448
00:50:02,230 --> 00:49:59,680
mountain and see this i mean

1449
00:50:03,030 --> 00:50:02,240
i i bet if we went again i would feel

1450
00:50:06,150 --> 00:50:03,040
differently

1451
00:50:07,510 --> 00:50:06,160
i think my mind and my my my soul wasn't

1452
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:07,520
open to it but i definitely felt

1453
00:50:11,109 --> 00:50:08,400
something weird

1454
00:50:12,470 --> 00:50:11,119
you know yeah maybe it was just like the

1455
00:50:13,349 --> 00:50:12,480
expectation like this building

1456
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:13,359
expectation

1457
00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:14,880
or something and i don't think you were

1458
00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:16,880
ready for the hike

1459
00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:19,440
also i was way out of shape you just

1460
00:50:26,069 --> 00:50:20,880
were prepared for the hype dude

1461
00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:26,079
bro yeah i was like

1462
00:50:29,829 --> 00:50:28,000
and i looked down i'm like it's like 10

1463
00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:29,839
feet

1464
00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:31,680
it gets real steep though dude you got

1465
00:50:34,230 --> 00:50:33,359
to do some climbing you got to do some

1466
00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:34,240
climbing

1467
00:50:39,990 --> 00:50:37,680
but yeah dude uh so

1468
00:50:41,030 --> 00:50:40,000
so dude i i want you to ask the next

1469
00:50:42,630 --> 00:50:41,040
question joe like

1470
00:50:44,470 --> 00:50:42,640
i mean we talked about this before lou

1471
00:50:46,549 --> 00:50:44,480
came on but i want you to mention

1472
00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:46,559
because you're better at articulating

1473
00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:49,200
this kind of stuff is like

1474
00:50:54,309 --> 00:50:52,079
where where are we focusing maybe lou

1475
00:50:55,990 --> 00:50:54,319
already answered that question like

1476
00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:56,000
why a lot of people right now are

1477
00:50:59,910 --> 00:50:58,400
focusing on on proving this thing and

1478
00:51:03,109 --> 00:50:59,920
finding that

1479
00:51:04,150 --> 00:51:03,119
there's a lot of people in the news

1480
00:51:05,510 --> 00:51:04,160
talking about it but

1481
00:51:07,829 --> 00:51:05,520
yeah you know what we were talking about

1482
00:51:09,910 --> 00:51:07,839
earlier like i i wanna know what lou

1483
00:51:12,150 --> 00:51:09,920
thinks it looks like lou's back

1484
00:51:13,109 --> 00:51:12,160
you ready buddy yeah yeah well yeah

1485
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:13,119
we'll talk about that

1486
00:51:20,069 --> 00:51:16,800
all right get your back back

1487
00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:20,079
good to be back so yeah man i think

1488
00:51:23,430 --> 00:51:21,520
i think where we're gonna go next with

1489
00:51:24,790 --> 00:51:23,440
this is what we were me and bill were

1490
00:51:28,309 --> 00:51:24,800
just kind of talking about was

1491
00:51:29,430 --> 00:51:28,319
the uh the focus of where all this stuff

1492
00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:29,440
is going and

1493
00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:31,599
and like you were saying earlier uh

1494
00:51:34,230 --> 00:51:32,640
homeboy had said

1495
00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:34,240
you know well if it's uh if it's ice

1496
00:51:37,990 --> 00:51:35,359
cream i want to hear from ben and

1497
00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:38,000
jerry's or if it's you know

1498
00:51:44,549 --> 00:51:41,520
so on and so on it's it's

1499
00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:44,559
it's really strange because

1500
00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:46,160
the military and the government is such

1501
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:47,760
a

1502
00:51:58,790 --> 00:51:55,440
public

1503
00:52:01,190 --> 00:51:58,800
all over the world and it's like

1504
00:52:01,829 --> 00:52:01,200
this massive amount of people is having

1505
00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:01,839
to

1506
00:52:09,270 --> 00:52:05,920
uh conform their experiences

1507
00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:09,280
to a a small group of people that

1508
00:52:13,990 --> 00:52:12,400
work for us first of all i'm sorry

1509
00:52:16,069 --> 00:52:14,000
hold on one second my girlfriend's

1510
00:52:21,270 --> 00:52:16,079
locked out yeah i heard we heard the

1511
00:52:25,270 --> 00:52:23,190
oh i would take him off real quick give

1512
00:52:28,870 --> 00:52:25,280
him his privacy

1513
00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:28,880
there's privacy privacy

1514
00:52:32,710 --> 00:52:31,520
uh [\h__\h] i don't want to ruin your flow i

1515
00:52:35,910 --> 00:52:32,720
don't want to take out it

1516
00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:35,920
it's gone it's over it's done wait just

1517
00:52:39,109 --> 00:52:37,920
cut the stream just might as well just

1518
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:39,119
turn the show off

1519
00:52:43,990 --> 00:52:42,480
i'm done i mean also also

1520
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:44,000
we're both wearing spectacles tonight

1521
00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:47,040
bro yeah do spectacles testicles wallet

1522
00:52:50,069 --> 00:52:48,240
and watch bro

1523
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:50,079
i feel i feel like i have much more

1524
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:51,280
interesting things to say now that i

1525
00:52:56,950 --> 00:52:53,680
have glasses on dude

1526
00:53:00,069 --> 00:52:56,960
okay lose back sorry guys

1527
00:53:02,390 --> 00:53:00,079
uh okay so you were you were saying

1528
00:53:03,270 --> 00:53:02,400
about the uh the military has a small

1529
00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:03,280
part to do with this

1530
00:53:06,309 --> 00:53:04,800
well we're just saying like we're having

1531
00:53:09,589 --> 00:53:06,319
to we're having to tailor

1532
00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:09,599
our experiences in the way we talk um

1533
00:53:16,150 --> 00:53:13,760
for a very small portion um and

1534
00:53:16,870 --> 00:53:16,160
while they are a very important part to

1535
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:16,880
this and

1536
00:53:20,549 --> 00:53:19,440
and maybe you know answering some

1537
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:20,559
questions

1538
00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:23,280
are they the only ones that we can go to

1539
00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:25,119
do we not think that there's extremely

1540
00:53:28,150 --> 00:53:26,640
smart people that don't work for the

1541
00:53:29,829 --> 00:53:28,160
government or the military

1542
00:53:32,390 --> 00:53:29,839
that can help answer some of these

1543
00:53:35,589 --> 00:53:32,400
questions are we saying that credibility

1544
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:35,599
only comes from the military and

1545
00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:38,400
the government why are we leaving out

1546
00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:38,720
the

1547
00:53:47,589 --> 00:53:43,920
mass amount of

1548
00:53:50,390 --> 00:53:47,599
population doesn't have uh

1549
00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:50,400
you know uh 300 000 worth of

1550
00:53:55,589 --> 00:53:53,440
sophisticated radar systems

1551
00:53:56,710 --> 00:53:55,599
that's what i mean i know i i understand

1552
00:54:00,630 --> 00:53:56,720
what you're saying

1553
00:54:03,030 --> 00:54:00,640
right there i i want i get it

1554
00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:03,040
that's why unfortunately though for us

1555
00:54:06,150 --> 00:54:03,920
is that

1556
00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:06,160
the policy makers the people with the

1557
00:54:12,549 --> 00:54:08,559
power the people that we elect

1558
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:12,559
we have to demand from them more

1559
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:15,040
but the the problem is is that nobody's

1560
00:54:17,910 --> 00:54:16,079
doing that

1561
00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:17,920
that's why i started the big phone home

1562
00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:20,640
because i saw louis lozando's face

1563
00:54:25,109 --> 00:54:22,800
and i could see how tired and exhausted

1564
00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:25,119
he is doing this by himself and i go

1565
00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:26,160
this guy needs an

1566
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:28,720
army and he needs an army to call

1567
00:54:33,190 --> 00:54:30,640
congress not to get violent

1568
00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:33,200
not to get to mandy he needs an army to

1569
00:54:36,789 --> 00:54:35,280
call congress and interact with these

1570
00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:36,799
elected officials

1571
00:54:41,349 --> 00:54:39,280
like that's i get look we have to look

1572
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:41,359
at this

1573
00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:42,880
we're going to get to that conversation

1574
00:54:48,069 --> 00:54:44,960
you want to get to joe

1575
00:54:50,870 --> 00:54:48,079
but it's not going to happen today

1576
00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:50,880
because i can't take my experience to

1577
00:54:55,589 --> 00:54:52,480
congress

1578
00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:55,599
and start there they're not they a

1579
00:54:59,910 --> 00:54:56,640
congress member

1580
00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:59,920
has a finite amount of time you get in

1581
00:55:02,710 --> 00:55:00,720
that room

1582
00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:02,720
and you got to show them a picture a

1583
00:55:06,150 --> 00:55:04,880
video and an eyewitness testimony that

1584
00:55:07,589 --> 00:55:06,160
maybe goes along with what the

1585
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:07,599
information they're looking at in that

1586
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:08,960
file

1587
00:55:12,789 --> 00:55:11,040
and that's what starts changing the

1588
00:55:13,829 --> 00:55:12,799
conversation and you can see it

1589
00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:13,839
happening

1590
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:17,040
think about this as a marathon not a

1591
00:55:19,750 --> 00:55:18,000
race

1592
00:55:21,190 --> 00:55:19,760
like look at the medical marijuana

1593
00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:21,200
discussion i'm sure

1594
00:55:24,549 --> 00:55:22,640
there's a bunch of people out there that

1595
00:55:27,349 --> 00:55:24,559
have heard me use this analogy

1596
00:55:29,109 --> 00:55:27,359
in 1996 you couldn't get a senator to

1597
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:29,119
touch it with a 10-foot poll now we're

1598
00:55:33,589 --> 00:55:30,640
talking about legalizing it

1599
00:55:35,270 --> 00:55:33,599
federally yeah it took 25 years to get

1600
00:55:37,750 --> 00:55:35,280
that

1601
00:55:40,390 --> 00:55:37,760
right now what we're seeing is the

1602
00:55:43,109 --> 00:55:40,400
political winds changing on this topic

1603
00:55:45,030 --> 00:55:43,119
because now you've got a senator who's

1604
00:55:48,789 --> 00:55:45,040
laying out the playbook

1605
00:55:52,069 --> 00:55:48,799
for every other senator to come along

1606
00:55:54,950 --> 00:55:52,079
and copy exactly what he's doing

1607
00:55:56,630 --> 00:55:54,960
and do it in a way that conveys the

1608
00:55:59,349 --> 00:55:56,640
information without looking

1609
00:55:59,670 --> 00:55:59,359
like a cuckoo for cocoa puffs yeah you

1610
00:56:03,270 --> 00:55:59,680
know

1611
00:56:07,349 --> 00:56:03,280
it's it's so it's almost like it's just

1612
00:56:11,670 --> 00:56:09,270
i was just gonna say it's weird that

1613
00:56:13,990 --> 00:56:11,680
we're having to go to people

1614
00:56:16,549 --> 00:56:14,000
i know it's weird and make it and make

1615
00:56:18,470 --> 00:56:16,559
it seem like it's a legitimate topic

1616
00:56:19,589 --> 00:56:18,480
they're the ones who made it the crazy

1617
00:56:21,910 --> 00:56:19,599
topic in the first place

1618
00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:21,920
for sure for sure and look the biggest

1619
00:56:24,950 --> 00:56:23,920
theme that came up in the big phone home

1620
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:24,960
and it's a theme that

1621
00:56:29,589 --> 00:56:27,440
constantly comes up in my channel is

1622
00:56:32,470 --> 00:56:29,599
lack of trust

1623
00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:32,480
there is a big trust issue between the

1624
00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:34,240
american people

1625
00:56:39,190 --> 00:56:37,520
and its cons and its elected

1626
00:56:41,510 --> 00:56:39,200
representatives

1627
00:56:43,109 --> 00:56:41,520
and that's why i'm looking at this as a

1628
00:56:45,030 --> 00:56:43,119
political issue

1629
00:56:46,630 --> 00:56:45,040
because i'm looking at the politician

1630
00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:46,640
and i'm going hey

1631
00:56:50,470 --> 00:56:48,000
you've got a trust issue in your

1632
00:56:53,750 --> 00:56:50,480
district you want to win a

1633
00:56:55,829 --> 00:56:53,760
couple brownie points of trust

1634
00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:55,839
give us some info on this i'm telling

1635
00:57:00,789 --> 00:56:58,319
you it's only going to help

1636
00:57:01,829 --> 00:57:00,799
your your your chances of getting

1637
00:57:04,069 --> 00:57:01,839
reelected

1638
00:57:06,470 --> 00:57:04,079
i'm telling you this is a bipartisan

1639
00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:06,480
thing nobody's going to care and if i'm

1640
00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:09,760
in five years we're gonna i promise you

1641
00:57:16,470 --> 00:57:13,359
we're gonna have at least 20 senators

1642
00:57:17,510 --> 00:57:16,480
not congressmen senators talking about

1643
00:57:19,990 --> 00:57:17,520
this

1644
00:57:21,430 --> 00:57:20,000
that's what we need we need to just be a

1645
00:57:23,829 --> 00:57:21,440
little patient like

1646
00:57:26,549 --> 00:57:23,839
i just listened to a podcast with the

1647
00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:26,559
guy who wrote the new yorker article

1648
00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:29,440
and david chang a five-star michelin

1649
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:30,480
star chef

1650
00:57:35,430 --> 00:57:33,680
okay david chang i don't know if you

1651
00:57:37,829 --> 00:57:35,440
guys have ever worked in a restaurant or

1652
00:57:39,190 --> 00:57:37,839
or a michelin style restaurant okay i

1653
00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:39,200
have i've worked with one of the best

1654
00:57:44,789 --> 00:57:41,520
chefs on the planet right now

1655
00:57:45,270 --> 00:57:44,799
and they're very no-nonsense don't give

1656
00:57:46,789 --> 00:57:45,280
me any

1657
00:57:48,589 --> 00:57:46,799
[\h__\h] or i'm gonna throw you out of

1658
00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:48,599
this kitchen kind of people they're

1659
00:57:53,030 --> 00:57:50,960
egomaniacs when it comes to control of

1660
00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:53,040
information and he's also

1661
00:57:57,589 --> 00:57:55,680
uh korean so he's had a very strict

1662
00:57:59,510 --> 00:57:57,599
childhood he's said this himself i'm not

1663
00:58:02,870 --> 00:57:59,520
making an assumption or anything

1664
00:58:06,630 --> 00:58:02,880
like he's he's had a very stro a very

1665
00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:06,640
strong korean korean mother who was like

1666
00:58:09,589 --> 00:58:07,359
you're gonna do

1667
00:58:11,030 --> 00:58:09,599
you're gonna be a doctor yeah okay like

1668
00:58:13,109 --> 00:58:11,040
he's very open about his

1669
00:58:14,390 --> 00:58:13,119
upbringing yeah yeah yeah so it this is

1670
00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:14,400
nothing you know i'm not

1671
00:58:18,630 --> 00:58:16,480
being throwing a racist assumption out

1672
00:58:19,990 --> 00:58:18,640
there like he had that kind of childhood

1673
00:58:21,109 --> 00:58:20,000
so he looks at things at a very

1674
00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:21,119
analytical

1675
00:58:24,470 --> 00:58:23,280
how does this further the discussion in

1676
00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:24,480
a very quick way

1677
00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:27,520
because he's a chef and the the way they

1678
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:30,240
were talking about this topic was so

1679
00:58:35,589 --> 00:58:33,280
ignorant because even the new yorker

1680
00:58:38,069 --> 00:58:35,599
author who wrote this himself had was

1681
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:38,079
saying things in this article

1682
00:58:44,309 --> 00:58:42,000
that weren't correct but

1683
00:58:46,390 --> 00:58:44,319
the thing that they all came to the

1684
00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:46,400
conclusion on where i was like oh i gave

1685
00:58:50,309 --> 00:58:47,760
me goosebumps

1686
00:58:52,789 --> 00:58:50,319
was all of them were like why isn't this

1687
00:58:55,030 --> 00:58:52,799
okay for harvard to study man like

1688
00:58:57,430 --> 00:58:55,040
this should be something that is at

1689
00:59:00,309 --> 00:58:57,440
least put on the table as an idea

1690
00:59:01,510 --> 00:59:00,319
and and and the new yorker are i'm

1691
00:59:02,630 --> 00:59:01,520
pissed off that i'm forgetting this

1692
00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:02,640
guy's name but

1693
00:59:07,349 --> 00:59:05,440
he he referenced in the 1950s time

1694
00:59:08,870 --> 00:59:07,359
magazine you know all of the big

1695
00:59:10,950 --> 00:59:08,880
publications

1696
00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:10,960
that were going around in the american

1697
00:59:14,789 --> 00:59:12,960
economy okay especially like time

1698
00:59:18,870 --> 00:59:14,799
and there's others but that's the one

1699
00:59:20,470 --> 00:59:18,880
i'm thinking of playboy

1700
00:59:22,630 --> 00:59:20,480
that was a little later that was a

1701
00:59:24,230 --> 00:59:22,640
little later

1702
00:59:26,069 --> 00:59:24,240
still very big yeah yeah no but i'm

1703
00:59:27,030 --> 00:59:26,079
saying in these very serious magazines

1704
00:59:29,190 --> 00:59:27,040
this was

1705
00:59:30,150 --> 00:59:29,200
a topic that was not ridiculed it was

1706
00:59:32,710 --> 00:59:30,160
not in

1707
00:59:33,349 --> 00:59:32,720
in the early 1950s this was a serious

1708
00:59:36,789 --> 00:59:33,359
discussion

1709
00:59:40,150 --> 00:59:36,799
being had at a very rational level

1710
00:59:42,470 --> 00:59:40,160
and then roswell happened and then

1711
00:59:43,349 --> 00:59:42,480
the military was like let's just drench

1712
00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:43,359
all of our

1713
00:59:49,510 --> 00:59:46,400
our top secret you know toys in this

1714
00:59:50,950 --> 00:59:49,520
ufo stigma and anytime see if somebody

1715
00:59:52,789 --> 00:59:50,960
sees one of our jets we'll just call

1716
00:59:54,789 --> 00:59:52,799
them a wahoo and tell them they're crazy

1717
00:59:56,549 --> 00:59:54,799
you know like and

1718
00:59:59,030 --> 00:59:56,559
yeah what do you see in little green men

1719
01:00:01,109 --> 00:59:59,040
buddy was a little swamp guy sure

1720
01:00:02,549 --> 01:00:01,119
you know like and and they stigmatize it

1721
01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:02,559
and they did it successfully

1722
01:00:05,829 --> 01:00:03,839
and that's something that they talked

1723
01:00:07,910 --> 01:00:05,839
about in this interview like i know that

1724
01:00:09,589 --> 01:00:07,920
sounds like conspiracy but he clarified

1725
01:00:11,349 --> 01:00:09,599
that's actually something that happened

1726
01:00:14,870 --> 01:00:11,359
to this discussion that's

1727
01:00:18,069 --> 01:00:14,880
real um but also the aviary group

1728
01:00:19,990 --> 01:00:18,079
was huge in that the disinformation uh

1729
01:00:22,150 --> 01:00:20,000
group that i mean i don't know if they

1730
01:00:24,390 --> 01:00:22,160
still get together on weekends but

1731
01:00:25,589 --> 01:00:24,400
you know who knows but but the point is

1732
01:00:28,630 --> 01:00:25,599
is that

1733
01:00:30,870 --> 01:00:28,640
right now the new yorker the new york

1734
01:00:32,069 --> 01:00:30,880
post the pyramid video all of these

1735
01:00:35,910 --> 01:00:32,079
things

1736
01:00:37,510 --> 01:00:35,920
these are not for you and me

1737
01:00:39,829 --> 01:00:37,520
get those we got to get that through our

1738
01:00:43,750 --> 01:00:39,839
skulls this is for the average

1739
01:00:46,470 --> 01:00:43,760
joe public to start discussing now

1740
01:00:48,549 --> 01:00:46,480
and they're just now starting to catch

1741
01:00:50,150 --> 01:00:48,559
up to this history and conversation

1742
01:00:51,589 --> 01:00:50,160
and that's why when people read these

1743
01:00:53,030 --> 01:00:51,599
articles and they see these interviews

1744
01:00:54,789 --> 01:00:53,040
with melon and they see all these things

1745
01:00:59,030 --> 01:00:54,799
they're like whoa we already knew that

1746
01:01:01,030 --> 01:00:59,040
yeah know [\h__\h] but the problem is is 95

1747
01:01:02,630 --> 01:01:01,040
of the rest of the world doesn't know

1748
01:01:04,069 --> 01:01:02,640
about this or does it take this as

1749
01:01:07,510 --> 01:01:04,079
seriously as you and i

1750
01:01:09,190 --> 01:01:07,520
so we need to now re we

1751
01:01:11,109 --> 01:01:09,200
because here's what's gonna happen is

1752
01:01:11,990 --> 01:01:11,119
when this big news does drop and it's

1753
01:01:14,710 --> 01:01:12,000
coming

1754
01:01:16,390 --> 01:01:14,720
don't know when don't be you know in the

1755
01:01:18,069 --> 01:01:16,400
end of this report in five years

1756
01:01:20,630 --> 01:01:18,079
we just manage your expectations i'm

1757
01:01:22,069 --> 01:01:20,640
gonna think 10 15 years down the road

1758
01:01:24,309 --> 01:01:22,079
so that way if it happens next year

1759
01:01:27,829 --> 01:01:24,319
awesome you know like but

1760
01:01:31,109 --> 01:01:27,839
but when this information comes out

1761
01:01:33,990 --> 01:01:31,119
people are immediately gonna go to

1762
01:01:34,549 --> 01:01:34,000
how the hell did this happen so quickly

1763
01:01:37,349 --> 01:01:34,559
without

1764
01:01:38,470 --> 01:01:37,359
us knowing that this was a possibility

1765
01:01:40,150 --> 01:01:38,480
and they're going to start going through

1766
01:01:42,470 --> 01:01:40,160
the checkbooks and the history

1767
01:01:44,789 --> 01:01:42,480
of this topic and they're going to see

1768
01:01:45,510 --> 01:01:44,799
all of the [\h__\h] that the military

1769
01:01:48,710 --> 01:01:45,520
has done

1770
01:01:50,789 --> 01:01:48,720
to either put this under a rug or or

1771
01:01:51,750 --> 01:01:50,799
change the conversation in a way that

1772
01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:51,760
suits them

1773
01:01:55,029 --> 01:01:53,920
and they're gonna start getting pissed

1774
01:01:59,190 --> 01:01:55,039
because if these

1775
01:02:01,750 --> 01:01:59,200
things whatever they are are malevolent

1776
01:02:04,230 --> 01:02:01,760
in other words they're here to take

1777
01:02:06,230 --> 01:02:04,240
things

1778
01:02:07,910 --> 01:02:06,240
then people are going to be really upset

1779
01:02:09,109 --> 01:02:07,920
i mean we may not even have the time to

1780
01:02:10,789 --> 01:02:09,119
hold people accountable

1781
01:02:12,390 --> 01:02:10,799
depending on what kind of malevolent

1782
01:02:15,109 --> 01:02:12,400
threat we're talking about here

1783
01:02:16,309 --> 01:02:15,119
yeah but i don't think that's what's

1784
01:02:18,950 --> 01:02:16,319
going to happen

1785
01:02:21,029 --> 01:02:18,960
i really don't and i don't even think as

1786
01:02:21,670 --> 01:02:21,039
the more i learn and the more i talk to

1787
01:02:23,230 --> 01:02:21,680
people

1788
01:02:25,109 --> 01:02:23,240
i don't even think these things are

1789
01:02:27,670 --> 01:02:25,119
extraterrestrial anymore

1790
01:02:28,309 --> 01:02:27,680
like i think it's a lot closer than we

1791
01:02:37,190 --> 01:02:28,319
think

1792
01:02:39,430 --> 01:02:37,200
dealing with here what do you know

1793
01:02:40,870 --> 01:02:39,440
dude i don't know anything i don't know

1794
01:02:42,309 --> 01:02:40,880
anything you know these are just

1795
01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:42,319
feelings and theories that are being

1796
01:02:45,670 --> 01:02:44,400
thrown out there that i'm looking at and

1797
01:02:48,470 --> 01:02:45,680
i'm going

1798
01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:48,480
yeah you know i that hits deep so so

1799
01:02:52,230 --> 01:02:49,920
piggybacking off of that and

1800
01:02:53,910 --> 01:02:52,240
almost you know referring to what our

1801
01:02:55,510 --> 01:02:53,920
conversation started as

1802
01:02:57,510 --> 01:02:55,520
you know we were talking about uh

1803
01:03:00,470 --> 01:02:57,520
nuclear technology right

1804
01:03:02,470 --> 01:03:00,480
so we have this resource that is pretty

1805
01:03:06,309 --> 01:03:02,480
dangerous you can't just hand

1806
01:03:09,990 --> 01:03:06,319
some uh irradiated plutonium or whatever

1807
01:03:13,270 --> 01:03:10,000
to to a a suburban family

1808
01:03:13,750 --> 01:03:13,280
you know or or just really anybody who

1809
01:03:16,390 --> 01:03:13,760
doesn't

1810
01:03:17,430 --> 01:03:16,400
know how to treat it right like that's

1811
01:03:19,190 --> 01:03:17,440
kind of dangerous so i

1812
01:03:21,270 --> 01:03:19,200
understand why that's not in the hands

1813
01:03:22,710 --> 01:03:21,280
of the public no but i'm also not

1814
01:03:25,750 --> 01:03:22,720
talking about putting you know

1815
01:03:27,190 --> 01:03:25,760
many boxes of of nuclear reactors inside

1816
01:03:29,510 --> 01:03:27,200
people's homes i'm saying

1817
01:03:31,430 --> 01:03:29,520
replace those gas generators that run

1818
01:03:32,470 --> 01:03:31,440
all of those power plants with nuclear

1819
01:03:34,950 --> 01:03:32,480
reaction

1820
01:03:35,910 --> 01:03:34,960
well so let me pose this question for

1821
01:03:39,349 --> 01:03:35,920
you guys

1822
01:03:40,710 --> 01:03:39,359
so as our so let's let's push this thing

1823
01:03:42,309 --> 01:03:40,720
a bit further you were talking about

1824
01:03:43,029 --> 01:03:42,319
this is the first step we have to prove

1825
01:03:46,549 --> 01:03:43,039
it to the

1826
01:03:47,750 --> 01:03:46,559
entirety of humanity have it a a worthy

1827
01:03:50,470 --> 01:03:47,760
discussion that's

1828
01:03:52,309 --> 01:03:50,480
not uh combated by ridicule okay now not

1829
01:03:54,710 --> 01:03:52,319
only that we need scientists and

1830
01:03:55,750 --> 01:03:54,720
academic academia looking into it in a

1831
01:03:58,150 --> 01:03:55,760
serious like we need

1832
01:03:59,670 --> 01:03:58,160
grants given not only to public

1833
01:04:02,230 --> 01:03:59,680
universities but to

1834
01:04:02,789 --> 01:04:02,240
other public entities like for example

1835
01:04:04,230 --> 01:04:02,799
skyhub

1836
01:04:06,150 --> 01:04:04,240
this is an example i use all the time

1837
01:04:08,069 --> 01:04:06,160
instead of putting 22 million

1838
01:04:09,750 --> 01:04:08,079
dollars inside a government program for

1839
01:04:10,470 --> 01:04:09,760
that for five years when nobody gets

1840
01:04:11,990 --> 01:04:10,480
answers

1841
01:04:13,829 --> 01:04:12,000
all the information is hidden behind

1842
01:04:15,670 --> 01:04:13,839
classified uh you know

1843
01:04:17,109 --> 01:04:15,680
veils of secrecy why don't you give it

1844
01:04:20,390 --> 01:04:17,119
to duke or

1845
01:04:21,829 --> 01:04:20,400
yale or sky hub and and let these kids

1846
01:04:24,069 --> 01:04:21,839
work on the software and the hardware

1847
01:04:24,710 --> 01:04:24,079
make it better like like this is a great

1848
01:04:27,510 --> 01:04:24,720
tool for

1849
01:04:29,589 --> 01:04:27,520
the public to gather information so that

1850
01:04:31,510 --> 01:04:29,599
way we don't have to ask for it anymore

1851
01:04:32,630 --> 01:04:31,520
but we need the grants we need we need

1852
01:04:34,630 --> 01:04:32,640
the money to be

1853
01:04:36,230 --> 01:04:34,640
and and the permission to the

1854
01:04:39,270 --> 01:04:36,240
universities that to go

1855
01:04:41,829 --> 01:04:39,280
okay harvard yes these are real

1856
01:04:42,789 --> 01:04:41,839
here's 20 million dollars can you please

1857
01:04:44,549 --> 01:04:42,799
study and

1858
01:04:46,230 --> 01:04:44,559
and we'll crawl for us reference the

1859
01:04:47,349 --> 01:04:46,240
information every two years to see where

1860
01:04:49,589 --> 01:04:47,359
you guys are at

1861
01:04:51,910 --> 01:04:49,599
and that's how you get developments in

1862
01:04:53,750 --> 01:04:51,920
vaccines that's how you get developments

1863
01:04:54,309 --> 01:04:53,760
and technology and all sorts of other

1864
01:04:55,829 --> 01:04:54,319
things

1865
01:04:57,349 --> 01:04:55,839
we need to do the exact same thing with

1866
01:04:59,589 --> 01:04:57,359
this topic but the thing is is

1867
01:05:01,430 --> 01:04:59,599
we have to convince our elected

1868
01:05:02,150 --> 01:05:01,440
representatives that this is a topic

1869
01:05:05,190 --> 01:05:02,160
worth

1870
01:05:06,950 --> 01:05:05,200
pursuing you know and and it is and the

1871
01:05:07,990 --> 01:05:06,960
reason why i think it's the sexiest

1872
01:05:10,630 --> 01:05:08,000
thing for a politician

1873
01:05:11,270 --> 01:05:10,640
to latch onto is because it doesn't

1874
01:05:13,510 --> 01:05:11,280
matter

1875
01:05:15,029 --> 01:05:13,520
both sides are into this man so even if

1876
01:05:16,870 --> 01:05:15,039
you're a hardcore republican

1877
01:05:18,630 --> 01:05:16,880
but you got a democrat that really wants

1878
01:05:21,109 --> 01:05:18,640
some answers on ufos

1879
01:05:22,069 --> 01:05:21,119
um you're gonna maybe win their vote who

1880
01:05:23,589 --> 01:05:22,079
knows like

1881
01:05:25,589 --> 01:05:23,599
i mean there's a lot of things that

1882
01:05:26,390 --> 01:05:25,599
could happen we've also we've also got

1883
01:05:33,109 --> 01:05:26,400
to

1884
01:05:35,670 --> 01:05:33,119
these so-called spooks who uh

1885
01:05:37,109 --> 01:05:35,680
stop funding to these universities who

1886
01:05:39,270 --> 01:05:37,119
stopped this research

1887
01:05:40,950 --> 01:05:39,280
i mean i'm not saying this dude's a

1888
01:05:42,870 --> 01:05:40,960
spook but i mean you got like hal put

1889
01:05:44,390 --> 01:05:42,880
off who was part of a stanford research

1890
01:05:46,630 --> 01:05:44,400
institute you know that dude

1891
01:05:47,990 --> 01:05:46,640
uh studied psychic abilities and things

1892
01:05:50,230 --> 01:05:48,000
like that and he's

1893
01:05:51,029 --> 01:05:50,240
pretty prominent in the in the ufo

1894
01:05:53,190 --> 01:05:51,039
community

1895
01:05:54,230 --> 01:05:53,200
um you know there's there's also you

1896
01:05:56,309 --> 01:05:54,240
know

1897
01:05:57,510 --> 01:05:56,319
other people who shall remain nameless

1898
01:05:59,670 --> 01:05:57,520
who have called up

1899
01:06:00,789 --> 01:05:59,680
stanford and been like hey you're not

1900
01:06:02,710 --> 01:06:00,799
gonna do that

1901
01:06:03,990 --> 01:06:02,720
that program we're just gonna say that

1902
01:06:06,789 --> 01:06:04,000
now you know

1903
01:06:08,390 --> 01:06:06,799
so it's like it's weird because we're

1904
01:06:09,589 --> 01:06:08,400
we're deal we're we're having this

1905
01:06:11,910 --> 01:06:09,599
battle

1906
01:06:12,630 --> 01:06:11,920
and it's like it's the public and the

1907
01:06:19,990 --> 01:06:12,640
government

1908
01:06:22,710 --> 01:06:20,000
it's like how can you

1909
01:06:23,270 --> 01:06:22,720
how can you move forward when the same

1910
01:06:26,309 --> 01:06:23,280
entity

1911
01:06:28,630 --> 01:06:26,319
is battling itself like wow i tell you

1912
01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:28,640
i'll tell you when when the inspector

1913
01:06:32,309 --> 01:06:30,640
general comes out and says hey i want

1914
01:06:33,910 --> 01:06:32,319
you guys to show me how you collect this

1915
01:06:35,670 --> 01:06:33,920
information and if i find that

1916
01:06:37,510 --> 01:06:35,680
it's an efficient way of collecting data

1917
01:06:38,789 --> 01:06:37,520
on this topic we're going to scrap it

1918
01:06:40,230 --> 01:06:38,799
and start again

1919
01:06:41,910 --> 01:06:40,240
like and we're going to start with a

1920
01:06:43,670 --> 01:06:41,920
different set of rules like the

1921
01:06:46,470 --> 01:06:43,680
difference is dude is that

1922
01:06:48,630 --> 01:06:46,480
again the conversation is being had in

1923
01:06:50,069 --> 01:06:48,640
the new yorker the new york times the

1924
01:06:52,630 --> 01:06:50,079
new york post like

1925
01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:52,640
the washington times fox news like it's

1926
01:06:57,109 --> 01:06:53,119
being

1927
01:07:00,150 --> 01:06:57,119
this conversation like that new yorker

1928
01:07:03,829 --> 01:07:00,160
or magazine the physical magazine

1929
01:07:07,109 --> 01:07:03,839
is going to be sitting in every single

1930
01:07:10,630 --> 01:07:07,119
washington lobby bar

1931
01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:10,640
restaurant waiting room everywhere in

1932
01:07:13,109 --> 01:07:11,280
the most

1933
01:07:15,029 --> 01:07:13,119
powerful city in the world and they're

1934
01:07:17,430 --> 01:07:15,039
going to pick up that new yorker

1935
01:07:18,150 --> 01:07:17,440
and they're going to read this you know

1936
01:07:20,549 --> 01:07:18,160
13

1937
01:07:23,430 --> 01:07:20,559
000 word article telling them this

1938
01:07:24,150 --> 01:07:23,440
highly sophisticated very well educated

1939
01:07:26,549 --> 01:07:24,160
person who

1940
01:07:27,670 --> 01:07:26,559
never thought that this was even a

1941
01:07:29,990 --> 01:07:27,680
possibility and

1942
01:07:31,829 --> 01:07:30,000
i can't even believe i'm reading is this

1943
01:07:34,150 --> 01:07:31,839
the new yorker

1944
01:07:36,150 --> 01:07:34,160
you know and then and and then they

1945
01:07:40,069 --> 01:07:36,160
they're done reading it and they're like

1946
01:07:42,630 --> 01:07:40,079
holy [\h__\h] well now i know what to talk

1947
01:07:44,470 --> 01:07:42,640
about over martinis

1948
01:07:46,950 --> 01:07:44,480
yeah you know what i'm saying like this

1949
01:07:49,750 --> 01:07:46,960
is a game changer dude

1950
01:07:51,349 --> 01:07:49,760
yeah we're we're talking about like and

1951
01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:51,359
this you're making me understand

1952
01:07:54,630 --> 01:07:53,440
uh a lot of this is this is helpful

1953
01:07:56,630 --> 01:07:54,640
because i think

1954
01:07:58,150 --> 01:07:56,640
what i'm realizing is that i've i've

1955
01:07:59,430 --> 01:07:58,160
accepted this thing has been happening

1956
01:08:02,470 --> 01:07:59,440
and it's real

1957
01:08:04,230 --> 01:08:02,480
for for a bunch of years now so i'm a i

1958
01:08:04,950 --> 01:08:04,240
don't know if the words jaded or not but

1959
01:08:07,190 --> 01:08:04,960
like

1960
01:08:08,470 --> 01:08:07,200
i i i've accepted that so it no longer

1961
01:08:10,390 --> 01:08:08,480
interests me when a

1962
01:08:12,950 --> 01:08:10,400
a news article comes out about the same

1963
01:08:16,070 --> 01:08:12,960
exact topic we've been talking about for

1964
01:08:18,789 --> 01:08:16,080
three years four years like i love

1965
01:08:20,229 --> 01:08:18,799
that it's happening and you know that

1966
01:08:23,349 --> 01:08:20,239
perspective is

1967
01:08:25,189 --> 01:08:23,359
it's just it it it varies you know the

1968
01:08:27,189 --> 01:08:25,199
the closer we get the more people

1969
01:08:28,470 --> 01:08:27,199
that we have talking about this that are

1970
01:08:30,630 --> 01:08:28,480
in the military

1971
01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:30,640
the more legitimate it becomes i guess

1972
01:08:33,749 --> 01:08:32,400
i'm just more interested

1973
01:08:35,349 --> 01:08:33,759
in like when are we going to take that

1974
01:08:36,229 --> 01:08:35,359
next step i mean we talked about step

1975
01:08:38,309 --> 01:08:36,239
one where

1976
01:08:39,349 --> 01:08:38,319
the mass public accepts this as a true

1977
01:08:40,870 --> 01:08:39,359
thing that's happening

1978
01:08:43,110 --> 01:08:40,880
all right let's get over a couple years

1979
01:08:44,709 --> 01:08:43,120
passed by what's that next step

1980
01:08:47,110 --> 01:08:44,719
i think that's the i think that's the

1981
01:08:48,309 --> 01:08:47,120
easy part is getting the general public

1982
01:08:51,590 --> 01:08:48,319
to accept it i

1983
01:08:53,990 --> 01:08:51,600
still think the hard part is okay

1984
01:08:54,870 --> 01:08:54,000
now the government's asking questions i

1985
01:08:57,510 --> 01:08:54,880
want i want

1986
01:08:59,430 --> 01:08:57,520
answers to this ufo thing well who are

1987
01:09:01,749 --> 01:08:59,440
they asking those questions to

1988
01:09:03,030 --> 01:09:01,759
they're asking those questions to these

1989
01:09:05,229 --> 01:09:03,040
certain people

1990
01:09:06,550 --> 01:09:05,239
who have ties to these extremely

1991
01:09:08,550 --> 01:09:06,560
compartmentalized

1992
01:09:10,149 --> 01:09:08,560
programs that aren't even government

1993
01:09:12,229 --> 01:09:10,159
related a lot of them are

1994
01:09:13,510 --> 01:09:12,239
private entities that you can't request

1995
01:09:15,910 --> 01:09:13,520
for your requests

1996
01:09:17,510 --> 01:09:15,920
you can't get information from them that

1997
01:09:20,149 --> 01:09:17,520
is lock and key

1998
01:09:21,189 --> 01:09:20,159
sealed it's done there's so much

1999
01:09:24,470 --> 01:09:21,199
information

2000
01:09:26,870 --> 01:09:24,480
that is hid away from everybody

2001
01:09:28,070 --> 01:09:26,880
and i think it's going to be very very

2002
01:09:32,470 --> 01:09:28,080
hard to

2003
01:09:36,390 --> 01:09:32,480
unlock that box let me lay this on you

2004
01:09:38,149 --> 01:09:36,400
i think that it's not the end result

2005
01:09:39,829 --> 01:09:38,159
that the government's worried about in

2006
01:09:41,030 --> 01:09:39,839
other words the end result being

2007
01:09:43,430 --> 01:09:41,040
disclosure

2008
01:09:44,070 --> 01:09:43,440
okay it's not about it's not whether

2009
01:09:46,709 --> 01:09:44,080
they're not

2010
01:09:47,990 --> 01:09:46,719
worried whether or not people will

2011
01:09:53,910 --> 01:09:48,000
accept it

2012
01:09:55,669 --> 01:09:53,920
so the end result is not their concern

2013
01:09:58,149 --> 01:09:55,679
their concern is

2014
01:09:59,669 --> 01:09:58,159
how did they get to the conclusion of

2015
01:10:02,229 --> 01:09:59,679
the end result

2016
01:10:04,070 --> 01:10:02,239
okay so what was the process how did

2017
01:10:07,270 --> 01:10:04,080
they collect the data

2018
01:10:07,750 --> 01:10:07,280
what instruments did they use where were

2019
01:10:10,310 --> 01:10:07,760
they

2020
01:10:12,149 --> 01:10:10,320
what were the conditions like all of

2021
01:10:15,590 --> 01:10:12,159
these things are gonna have to be

2022
01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:15,600
asked and they can't give you that

2023
01:10:19,830 --> 01:10:18,960
information because it's how they've

2024
01:10:22,070 --> 01:10:19,840
collected

2025
01:10:23,669 --> 01:10:22,080
data for the last 70 years it's what's

2026
01:10:26,310 --> 01:10:23,679
made us a superpower

2027
01:10:28,470 --> 01:10:26,320
so if they start telling people how

2028
01:10:29,270 --> 01:10:28,480
these systems and how this data is

2029
01:10:31,350 --> 01:10:29,280
collected

2030
01:10:33,669 --> 01:10:31,360
they're they're in a tough spot stop

2031
01:10:36,310 --> 01:10:33,679
drinking coca-cola

2032
01:10:38,390 --> 01:10:36,320
they're in a very tough spot so i so

2033
01:10:38,950 --> 01:10:38,400
that's the conversation that's being had

2034
01:10:41,030 --> 01:10:38,960
now

2035
01:10:42,870 --> 01:10:41,040
how do we tell people about this end

2036
01:10:44,950 --> 01:10:42,880
result without giving them

2037
01:10:46,070 --> 01:10:44,960
how we collected that information for

2038
01:10:47,990 --> 01:10:46,080
the end result

2039
01:10:49,350 --> 01:10:48,000
because that's that's the biggest issue

2040
01:10:51,910 --> 01:10:49,360
it's not the end result

2041
01:10:53,110 --> 01:10:51,920
dudes it is the collection of that

2042
01:10:55,990 --> 01:10:53,120
result so

2043
01:10:57,990 --> 01:10:56,000
so and also remember like if that stuff

2044
01:11:01,510 --> 01:10:58,000
starts coming out that means that

2045
01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:01,520
potentially you know american assets or

2046
01:11:05,270 --> 01:11:04,560
spies or or operatives are put in harm's

2047
01:11:07,669 --> 01:11:05,280
way

2048
01:11:09,830 --> 01:11:07,679
um you know it it could reveal a lot of

2049
01:11:11,189 --> 01:11:09,840
secrets about the us that in some cases

2050
01:11:13,510 --> 01:11:11,199
are really nasty

2051
01:11:14,470 --> 01:11:13,520
very dirty ways of collecting

2052
01:11:16,149 --> 01:11:14,480
information

2053
01:11:19,189 --> 01:11:16,159
that they don't want people to know

2054
01:11:19,910 --> 01:11:19,199
about and in some cases it keeps us very

2055
01:11:22,149 --> 01:11:19,920
safe and

2056
01:11:24,310 --> 01:11:22,159
make sure that so you know the republic

2057
01:11:26,709 --> 01:11:24,320
is somewhat intact and

2058
01:11:28,070 --> 01:11:26,719
and that uh you know we we maintain

2059
01:11:29,590 --> 01:11:28,080
shipping routes and things like that

2060
01:11:31,110 --> 01:11:29,600
around the world but

2061
01:11:32,310 --> 01:11:31,120
they're not going to tell you how the

2062
01:11:34,070 --> 01:11:32,320
how the you know they're not going to

2063
01:11:36,950 --> 01:11:34,080
tell you what's in the in the recipe

2064
01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:36,960
the 23 sp herbs and spices that makes

2065
01:11:38,790 --> 01:11:37,760
the chicken

2066
01:11:39,830 --> 01:11:38,800
you know what i'm saying they're just

2067
01:11:40,950 --> 01:11:39,840
going to give you the chicken and say

2068
01:11:43,350 --> 01:11:40,960
get the hell out of here

2069
01:11:44,149 --> 01:11:43,360
now are you okay with that that's the

2070
01:11:45,990 --> 01:11:44,159
question

2071
01:11:48,550 --> 01:11:46,000
are you okay with getting the bucket of

2072
01:11:51,189 --> 01:11:48,560
chicken and gorging on the chicken

2073
01:11:52,390 --> 01:11:51,199
but not knowing how the chicken was made

2074
01:11:55,030 --> 01:11:52,400
not really

2075
01:11:56,310 --> 01:11:55,040
do you do you think that the uh so i

2076
01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:56,320
have two points i want to make but i'm

2077
01:11:58,950 --> 01:11:56,800
gonna i'm

2078
01:12:01,430 --> 01:11:58,960
trying to stick to one thing so this

2079
01:12:02,950 --> 01:12:01,440
this 23 herbs and spices thing like how

2080
01:12:04,470 --> 01:12:02,960
how is the information getting collected

2081
01:12:06,470 --> 01:12:04,480
that's a really interesting

2082
01:12:08,790 --> 01:12:06,480
uh path and and you're saying that it's

2083
01:12:10,630 --> 01:12:08,800
it's like an end result right like

2084
01:12:12,470 --> 01:12:10,640
that to me isn't the end result the end

2085
01:12:14,870 --> 01:12:12,480
result is dimensions higher

2086
01:12:16,229 --> 01:12:14,880
like what is the inter you know but i'll

2087
01:12:18,950 --> 01:12:16,239
say this like

2088
01:12:19,669 --> 01:12:18,960
this that makes the most sense to me

2089
01:12:22,229 --> 01:12:19,679
what you're saying

2090
01:12:23,830 --> 01:12:22,239
like the end result that they're there

2091
01:12:26,950 --> 01:12:23,840
the government is afraid of

2092
01:12:27,830 --> 01:12:26,960
because they uh i feel like they're

2093
01:12:30,310 --> 01:12:27,840
conditioning us

2094
01:12:31,350 --> 01:12:30,320
right now as we speak you know passing

2095
01:12:33,990 --> 01:12:31,360
certain bills

2096
01:12:35,830 --> 01:12:34,000
limiting our freedoms uh and i don't

2097
01:12:36,790 --> 01:12:35,840
want to get too conspiratorial or like

2098
01:12:39,189 --> 01:12:36,800
you know

2099
01:12:39,990 --> 01:12:39,199
partisan or whatever but i think they're

2100
01:12:43,030 --> 01:12:40,000
they're

2101
01:12:45,590 --> 01:12:43,040
the government is

2102
01:12:47,590 --> 01:12:45,600
is kind of you know what hey this is all

2103
01:12:49,030 --> 01:12:47,600
laying the foundation to when the [\h__\h]

2104
01:12:52,310 --> 01:12:49,040
hits the fan

2105
01:12:54,630 --> 01:12:52,320
uh everybody's a little

2106
01:12:56,470 --> 01:12:54,640
at least a little com more comfortable

2107
01:12:59,110 --> 01:12:56,480
in reacting to a certain way

2108
01:12:59,830 --> 01:12:59,120
about information coming out like this

2109
01:13:02,070 --> 01:12:59,840
you know

2110
01:13:03,430 --> 01:13:02,080
the the black lives matter and and the

2111
01:13:05,350 --> 01:13:03,440
coveted stuff it's like

2112
01:13:07,590 --> 01:13:05,360
we're almost and i hate to go down that

2113
01:13:10,950 --> 01:13:07,600
path but like we're conditioned to

2114
01:13:13,270 --> 01:13:10,960
to to kind of be okay with

2115
01:13:13,990 --> 01:13:13,280
uh submission in a way we're like stay

2116
01:13:16,310 --> 01:13:14,000
in your house

2117
01:13:18,470 --> 01:13:16,320
or you know don't go outside don't don't

2118
01:13:19,990 --> 01:13:18,480
rebel because if you fight for what you

2119
01:13:21,430 --> 01:13:20,000
believe in

2120
01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:21,440
you're going to get knocked [\h__\h] out you

2121
01:13:25,030 --> 01:13:23,120
know don't don't storm the capital

2122
01:13:26,149 --> 01:13:25,040
cause we're going to sue you and

2123
01:13:28,149 --> 01:13:26,159
somebody might die

2124
01:13:29,189 --> 01:13:28,159
like does that make sense like i i don't

2125
01:13:31,189 --> 01:13:29,199
want to get like

2126
01:13:32,550 --> 01:13:31,199
two in front of the political stuff but

2127
01:13:34,709 --> 01:13:32,560
yeah

2128
01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:34,719
does that make sense like that that's

2129
01:13:37,270 --> 01:13:36,480
it's not the end result but it's an end

2130
01:13:39,990 --> 01:13:37,280
result that

2131
01:13:41,430 --> 01:13:40,000
whoever's in power is afraid of i don't

2132
01:13:43,430 --> 01:13:41,440
think they're afraid of it

2133
01:13:45,189 --> 01:13:43,440
i really don't because here's the thing

2134
01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:45,199
right if they gave that information

2135
01:13:47,669 --> 01:13:46,560
let's say it was common knowledge that

2136
01:13:50,070 --> 01:13:47,679
we are definitely

2137
01:13:51,270 --> 01:13:50,080
not alone now what that not alone here's

2138
01:13:52,550 --> 01:13:51,280
the thing is they're not going to tell

2139
01:13:55,750 --> 01:13:52,560
you

2140
01:13:57,030 --> 01:13:55,760
in this scenario it's

2141
01:13:59,110 --> 01:13:57,040
we're not alone and that's all we're

2142
01:14:00,550 --> 01:13:59,120
going to give you okay that's a fact

2143
01:14:02,070 --> 01:14:00,560
just know that and these things that are

2144
01:14:03,669 --> 01:14:02,080
flying around in their skies

2145
01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:03,679
we don't know exactly what they are yet

2146
01:14:08,390 --> 01:14:05,520
but just know that they're valid

2147
01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:08,400
they're they're they actually exist and

2148
01:14:11,270 --> 01:14:09,760
that's all they gave you

2149
01:14:12,709 --> 01:14:11,280
right we're not gonna give you any data

2150
01:14:13,510 --> 01:14:12,719
we're not gonna give you any of that

2151
01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:13,520
stuff

2152
01:14:17,110 --> 01:14:15,440
but maybe they open up to some public

2153
01:14:18,950 --> 01:14:17,120
funding and now universities start

2154
01:14:22,310 --> 01:14:18,960
talking about it now you've got the ball

2155
01:14:25,189 --> 01:14:22,320
seriously rolling on some things

2156
01:14:26,390 --> 01:14:25,199
will the public care how the chicken was

2157
01:14:28,470 --> 01:14:26,400
made

2158
01:14:29,990 --> 01:14:28,480
or will they continue to enjoy the

2159
01:14:31,669 --> 01:14:30,000
chicken and eat it until there's nothing

2160
01:14:32,390 --> 01:14:31,679
left on the bone and i think that i

2161
01:14:33,750 --> 01:14:32,400
think

2162
01:14:35,510 --> 01:14:33,760
just like in any transaction you're

2163
01:14:37,430 --> 01:14:35,520
gonna take the bucket of chicken and

2164
01:14:39,590 --> 01:14:37,440
you're just gonna eat it dude you know

2165
01:14:41,430 --> 01:14:39,600
you have an idea of what happens behind

2166
01:14:42,950 --> 01:14:41,440
the kitchen you know that maybe there's

2167
01:14:43,830 --> 01:14:42,960
a chef behind there that didn't clean

2168
01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:43,840
his hands

2169
01:14:46,950 --> 01:14:45,840
you know what's going on but you're

2170
01:14:48,709 --> 01:14:46,960
never gonna go

2171
01:14:51,030 --> 01:14:48,719
back there and actually inspect the

2172
01:14:52,870 --> 01:14:51,040
kitchen and see exactly how they're

2173
01:14:54,310 --> 01:14:52,880
making your chicken you'll never do that

2174
01:14:55,110 --> 01:14:54,320
first of all the manager will kick you

2175
01:14:56,709 --> 01:14:55,120
out

2176
01:14:58,870 --> 01:14:56,719
uh and the only way you can get in there

2177
01:15:01,990 --> 01:14:58,880
and see how the chicken's made is if you

2178
01:15:05,430 --> 01:15:02,000
become employed right yeah dude i mean

2179
01:15:08,790 --> 01:15:05,440
like so so for

2180
01:15:09,590 --> 01:15:08,800
like for like the the average person

2181
01:15:12,310 --> 01:15:09,600
right yeah

2182
01:15:13,830 --> 01:15:12,320
something happens to them okay yeah yeah

2183
01:15:16,070 --> 01:15:13,840
i can confirm it

2184
01:15:17,110 --> 01:15:16,080
they do exist i don't know how the

2185
01:15:19,750 --> 01:15:17,120
chicken's made

2186
01:15:21,030 --> 01:15:19,760
right yeah the government yes i can

2187
01:15:24,070 --> 01:15:21,040
confirm it

2188
01:15:25,030 --> 01:15:24,080
uh they do exist i can't tell you how

2189
01:15:27,990 --> 01:15:25,040
the chicken's made

2190
01:15:28,790 --> 01:15:28,000
yeah the regular joe is a quack the

2191
01:15:31,590 --> 01:15:28,800
government

2192
01:15:31,990 --> 01:15:31,600
is somebody to be taken seriously right

2193
01:15:36,470 --> 01:15:32,000
well

2194
01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:36,480
now becomes serious if the government

2195
01:15:41,030 --> 01:15:39,120
confirms what the quack is saying right

2196
01:15:43,990 --> 01:15:41,040
so now what the quack is saying

2197
01:15:44,470 --> 01:15:44,000
is truth okay it's common knowledge so

2198
01:15:47,110 --> 01:15:44,480
right but

2199
01:15:49,110 --> 01:15:47,120
what i think what i think it does is i

2200
01:15:52,709 --> 01:15:49,120
think it gets the discussion

2201
01:15:55,189 --> 01:15:52,719
going on are these aliens

2202
01:15:56,310 --> 01:15:55,199
are these trans dimensional beings are

2203
01:15:59,510 --> 01:15:56,320
these are these

2204
01:16:03,830 --> 01:15:59,520
cover really

2205
01:16:07,110 --> 01:16:03,840
fun conversations that you want to have

2206
01:16:09,590 --> 01:16:07,120
can be had because now terra firma

2207
01:16:10,870 --> 01:16:09,600
the base of this foundation or this

2208
01:16:14,550 --> 01:16:10,880
house we're building

2209
01:16:15,510 --> 01:16:14,560
is firm we all know we're all on the

2210
01:16:17,590 --> 01:16:15,520
common ground

2211
01:16:18,709 --> 01:16:17,600
the government our government said so

2212
01:16:20,630 --> 01:16:18,719
they've confirmed it

2213
01:16:22,950 --> 01:16:20,640
they're allowing science to study it and

2214
01:16:25,510 --> 01:16:22,960
they're not stigmatizing it anymore

2215
01:16:26,470 --> 01:16:25,520
and they're saying hey that guy that saw

2216
01:16:31,750 --> 01:16:26,480
that thing

2217
01:16:33,910 --> 01:16:31,760
they saw it but we're not going to tell

2218
01:16:35,750 --> 01:16:33,920
you how the information is collected

2219
01:16:37,270 --> 01:16:35,760
we're gonna let you guys kind of figure

2220
01:16:37,910 --> 01:16:37,280
that out on your own with some public

2221
01:16:39,910 --> 01:16:37,920
grants

2222
01:16:41,510 --> 01:16:39,920
and let's slowly get there but that's

2223
01:16:42,709 --> 01:16:41,520
where i think the conversation starts

2224
01:16:43,750 --> 01:16:42,719
going i don't think people are gonna

2225
01:16:45,669 --> 01:16:43,760
turn around and go

2226
01:16:47,110 --> 01:16:45,679
damn you for giving me this really

2227
01:16:50,950 --> 01:16:47,120
awesome video

2228
01:16:54,229 --> 01:16:50,960
like ah like there should be no

2229
01:16:57,030 --> 01:16:54,239
clear think about it this way

2230
01:16:58,870 --> 01:16:57,040
we're winning we are winning on this

2231
01:17:01,750 --> 01:16:58,880
topic we're not losing dude

2232
01:17:03,910 --> 01:17:01,760
this is something that can't be put back

2233
01:17:05,030 --> 01:17:03,920
into the toothpaste as lou says and it's

2234
01:17:07,510 --> 01:17:05,040
also

2235
01:17:09,830 --> 01:17:07,520
we have to start and i know this

2236
01:17:12,630 --> 01:17:09,840
shouldn't come from this side

2237
01:17:14,070 --> 01:17:12,640
because this side has every reason to be

2238
01:17:15,750 --> 01:17:14,080
weary of its government

2239
01:17:17,669 --> 01:17:15,760
we should always be weary of it that's

2240
01:17:19,430 --> 01:17:17,679
why we have a constitution that's why we

2241
01:17:21,189 --> 01:17:19,440
have these three branches of government

2242
01:17:24,390 --> 01:17:21,199
to make sure that weariness stays in

2243
01:17:27,110 --> 01:17:24,400
check but we have to

2244
01:17:29,189 --> 01:17:27,120
put the 60 years of stigma building and

2245
01:17:30,149 --> 01:17:29,199
all of the [\h__\h] and the lies and we

2246
01:17:33,750 --> 01:17:30,159
have to come to the

2247
01:17:36,229 --> 01:17:33,760
table and say okay

2248
01:17:38,070 --> 01:17:36,239
you've admitted there's more to this we

2249
01:17:39,189 --> 01:17:38,080
want to know the information give us as

2250
01:17:42,070 --> 01:17:39,199
much as you can

2251
01:17:42,790 --> 01:17:42,080
keep the classified stuff classified and

2252
01:17:46,950 --> 01:17:42,800
please

2253
01:17:47,669 --> 01:17:46,960
serious conversation about this from now

2254
01:17:49,350 --> 01:17:47,679
on

2255
01:17:52,229 --> 01:17:49,360
and we're just trying to get the

2256
01:17:53,990 --> 01:17:52,239
government to go all right

2257
01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:54,000
we can do that like we can provide you a

2258
01:17:58,550 --> 01:17:56,000
report every year we can give you some

2259
01:18:00,390 --> 01:17:58,560
public funding we can we can encourage

2260
01:18:02,550 --> 01:18:00,400
scientists and institutions to study

2261
01:18:03,590 --> 01:18:02,560
this uh we're gonna we're gonna kill the

2262
01:18:06,630 --> 01:18:03,600
stigma of it

2263
01:18:08,470 --> 01:18:06,640
and i think i don't care how they

2264
01:18:10,229 --> 01:18:08,480
collected the data just as long as every

2265
01:18:12,310 --> 01:18:10,239
year i'm getting new data

2266
01:18:13,430 --> 01:18:12,320
i don't care i don't care how the

2267
01:18:15,669 --> 01:18:13,440
chickens made dude

2268
01:18:17,189 --> 01:18:15,679
i just wanted i want them to confirm

2269
01:18:18,709 --> 01:18:17,199
that the chicken is real

2270
01:18:20,070 --> 01:18:18,719
that it's actually sitting there in

2271
01:18:21,669 --> 01:18:20,080
front of you and all you got to do is

2272
01:18:22,390 --> 01:18:21,679
remove the top and start eating the

2273
01:18:26,070 --> 01:18:22,400
chicken

2274
01:18:27,590 --> 01:18:26,080
and for the last 60 years they've been

2275
01:18:28,390 --> 01:18:27,600
saying yeah ain't no bugging a chick in

2276
01:18:29,590 --> 01:18:28,400
there

2277
01:18:32,149 --> 01:18:29,600
and you're looking at it and you're

2278
01:18:35,350 --> 01:18:32,159
going yet no [\h__\h] there's definitely

2279
01:18:36,870 --> 01:18:35,360
chicken here right i mean this is a

2280
01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:36,880
perfect analogy dude

2281
01:18:41,430 --> 01:18:39,520
like love it i love it it's it's it's so

2282
01:18:45,030 --> 01:18:41,440
much and and you could grab it you could

2283
01:18:46,630 --> 01:18:45,040
taste it you could eat it in some cases

2284
01:18:48,390 --> 01:18:46,640
you know what i'm saying so now the

2285
01:18:52,310 --> 01:18:48,400
government's going

2286
01:18:55,430 --> 01:18:52,320
all right the bucket of chicken is there

2287
01:18:58,070 --> 01:18:55,440
but you can't touch it yet

2288
01:18:59,669 --> 01:18:58,080
you gotta you gotta pass first you know

2289
01:19:00,630 --> 01:18:59,679
like whatever the transaction is

2290
01:19:01,910 --> 01:19:00,640
whatever that means

2291
01:19:03,350 --> 01:19:01,920
you know and that doesn't and that just

2292
01:19:04,390 --> 01:19:03,360
means okay we'll give you a little bit

2293
01:19:06,390 --> 01:19:04,400
of trust you know

2294
01:19:08,070 --> 01:19:06,400
like we'll we won't be such [\h__\h]

2295
01:19:10,630 --> 01:19:08,080
when we ask about this i mean we

2296
01:19:12,630 --> 01:19:10,640
unfortunately that's where we are we are

2297
01:19:14,870 --> 01:19:12,640
the lap dogs in this situation

2298
01:19:15,990 --> 01:19:14,880
unfortunately these jerks with all of

2299
01:19:19,189 --> 01:19:16,000
the information

2300
01:19:20,070 --> 01:19:19,199
have it and we have we are at their

2301
01:19:22,709 --> 01:19:20,080
mercy

2302
01:19:23,830 --> 01:19:22,719
so we might as well just swallow that

2303
01:19:26,229 --> 01:19:23,840
pride pill

2304
01:19:27,350 --> 01:19:26,239
and say okay how do we ask for this in a

2305
01:19:29,590 --> 01:19:27,360
merciful way

2306
01:19:31,750 --> 01:19:29,600
that doesn't that doesn't piss them off

2307
01:19:33,669 --> 01:19:31,760
or turn them off or think we're lulu

2308
01:19:35,189 --> 01:19:33,679
you know we got to do it in a way where

2309
01:19:37,430 --> 01:19:35,199
it's political

2310
01:19:39,350 --> 01:19:37,440
it is if you're going to talk about ice

2311
01:19:40,070 --> 01:19:39,360
cream i want to hear about it from ben

2312
01:19:42,149 --> 01:19:40,080
and jerry

2313
01:19:43,990 --> 01:19:42,159
if you're going to ask me for political

2314
01:19:46,070 --> 01:19:44,000
favors or political wants

2315
01:19:47,350 --> 01:19:46,080
you need to do it in the proper way in

2316
01:19:50,580 --> 01:19:47,360
that proper way

2317
01:19:53,189 --> 01:19:50,590
tweet email write call

2318
01:19:56,550 --> 01:19:53,199
[Music]

2319
01:19:58,149 --> 01:19:56,560
hopefully uh hopefully i could be wrong

2320
01:19:59,990 --> 01:19:58,159
well hopefully it's hopefully it's all

2321
01:20:02,310 --> 01:20:00,000
good information like i

2322
01:20:03,669 --> 01:20:02,320
i i want have you seen any information

2323
01:20:04,310 --> 01:20:03,679
yet that's come from the government

2324
01:20:07,830 --> 01:20:04,320
where you go

2325
01:20:09,750 --> 01:20:07,840
[\h__\h] that that's [\h__\h] every day

2326
01:20:11,350 --> 01:20:09,760
well i'm saying when it comes to the uap

2327
01:20:13,110 --> 01:20:11,360
topic when it comes to the uap

2328
01:20:14,950 --> 01:20:13,120
topic you know what i mean like have

2329
01:20:17,030 --> 01:20:14,960
they released anything that has upset

2330
01:20:26,470 --> 01:20:17,040
you

2331
01:20:29,030 --> 01:20:26,480
it's stuff that we've already

2332
01:20:31,189 --> 01:20:29,040
like known about or been interested in

2333
01:20:33,030 --> 01:20:31,199
like it it doesn't it doesn't bother me

2334
01:20:35,430 --> 01:20:33,040
the information that's come out doesn't

2335
01:20:38,229 --> 01:20:35,440
bother me it's not really

2336
01:20:40,070 --> 01:20:38,239
information yet it's it's just videos

2337
01:20:40,790 --> 01:20:40,080
and them saying yep there's some stuff

2338
01:20:43,830 --> 01:20:40,800
in the sky

2339
01:20:45,990 --> 01:20:43,840
we don't know what it is and uh yeah

2340
01:20:47,669 --> 01:20:46,000
it's there right so it's not like

2341
01:20:51,510 --> 01:20:47,679
there's anything to like really

2342
01:20:53,430 --> 01:20:51,520
be upset or uh you know up in arms about

2343
01:20:55,270 --> 01:20:53,440
uh not at all i'm i'm actually very

2344
01:20:58,310 --> 01:20:55,280
excited i think that's so cool

2345
01:20:59,110 --> 01:20:58,320
and i want to be on that side where i

2346
01:21:01,189 --> 01:20:59,120
can trust

2347
01:21:03,910 --> 01:21:01,199
my government right right but now that

2348
01:21:07,590 --> 01:21:03,920
the government is officially involved

2349
01:21:10,790 --> 01:21:07,600
um it's like okay when this information

2350
01:21:11,669 --> 01:21:10,800
does start coming out because we know

2351
01:21:13,430 --> 01:21:11,679
for a fact

2352
01:21:15,510 --> 01:21:13,440
that there have been people in the

2353
01:21:17,510 --> 01:21:15,520
community ufo community

2354
01:21:18,870 --> 01:21:17,520
that worked for the government yeah

2355
01:21:21,669 --> 01:21:18,880
purposely spread

2356
01:21:22,950 --> 01:21:21,679
misinformation disinformation and fed

2357
01:21:25,270 --> 01:21:22,960
that to the public

2358
01:21:26,470 --> 01:21:25,280
so now we just have to be so careful i

2359
01:21:29,350 --> 01:21:26,480
don't what i'm saying is

2360
01:21:31,110 --> 01:21:29,360
i don't i don't want people to just take

2361
01:21:33,189 --> 01:21:31,120
this information at face value

2362
01:21:34,950 --> 01:21:33,199
and move on with their day i want them

2363
01:21:37,590 --> 01:21:34,960
to really think about it

2364
01:21:38,310 --> 01:21:37,600
and before we even start to get into the

2365
01:21:41,270 --> 01:21:38,320
information

2366
01:21:42,390 --> 01:21:41,280
aspect it would do you some justice to

2367
01:21:44,470 --> 01:21:42,400
maybe go back

2368
01:21:46,310 --> 01:21:44,480
and and just learn the history a little

2369
01:21:47,270 --> 01:21:46,320
bit so you're careful about what you

2370
01:21:50,709 --> 01:21:47,280
absorb

2371
01:21:52,229 --> 01:21:50,719
1 million percent just because it's

2372
01:21:54,310 --> 01:21:52,239
coming from our government doesn't mean

2373
01:21:55,030 --> 01:21:54,320
we need to take it at face value that is

2374
01:21:58,149 --> 01:21:55,040
100

2375
01:21:59,350 --> 01:21:58,159
for sure like the pyramids or any of

2376
01:22:01,270 --> 01:21:59,360
these videos like

2377
01:22:03,030 --> 01:22:01,280
i love what mick west does i love when

2378
01:22:03,830 --> 01:22:03,040
he comes on he's like i could recreate

2379
01:22:06,310 --> 01:22:03,840
that and it's like

2380
01:22:07,590 --> 01:22:06,320
okay yeah cool well at least now i know

2381
01:22:09,430 --> 01:22:07,600
we could it could be done

2382
01:22:10,790 --> 01:22:09,440
but they still don't confirm what you're

2383
01:22:12,790 --> 01:22:10,800
saying is what it is

2384
01:22:14,629 --> 01:22:12,800
so i'm still going to wait i'm going to

2385
01:22:16,950 --> 01:22:14,639
wait until i can get some more

2386
01:22:19,669 --> 01:22:16,960
data more data and that's where shows

2387
01:22:22,149 --> 01:22:19,679
like this come in handy because

2388
01:22:24,070 --> 01:22:22,159
nbc cbs fox news doesn't have the

2389
01:22:26,070 --> 01:22:24,080
education or the nuance to discuss

2390
01:22:27,510 --> 01:22:26,080
something like this they want to go to

2391
01:22:29,030 --> 01:22:27,520
their next commercial break they just

2392
01:22:30,709 --> 01:22:29,040
want to keep eyeballs they don't have

2393
01:22:33,110 --> 01:22:30,719
the format like we do

2394
01:22:34,390 --> 01:22:33,120
you know so that's why i say when this

2395
01:22:36,629 --> 01:22:34,400
happens

2396
01:22:37,590 --> 01:22:36,639
we are going to be the forefront of this

2397
01:22:39,750 --> 01:22:37,600
of this

2398
01:22:41,910 --> 01:22:39,760
curiosity wave because people are going

2399
01:22:43,669 --> 01:22:41,920
to want a more nuanced

2400
01:22:47,270 --> 01:22:43,679
rational discussion because this

2401
01:22:50,470 --> 01:22:47,280
conversation is starting to be had

2402
01:22:51,350 --> 01:22:50,480
uh in in circles that it was never had

2403
01:22:54,229 --> 01:22:51,360
before

2404
01:22:56,390 --> 01:22:54,239
and that is a wonderful wonderful thing

2405
01:22:58,629 --> 01:22:56,400
so yeah yes i agree we need to be

2406
01:22:59,750 --> 01:22:58,639
vigilant we need to make sure that the

2407
01:23:02,870 --> 01:22:59,760
things they're saying

2408
01:23:05,350 --> 01:23:02,880
are actual facts especially if they're

2409
01:23:08,550 --> 01:23:05,360
spouting them as facts

2410
01:23:11,669 --> 01:23:08,560
but i could tell you this man if this

2411
01:23:14,550 --> 01:23:11,679
is some sort of

2412
01:23:14,870 --> 01:23:14,560
trickery or [\h__\h] on the on the part

2413
01:23:22,870 --> 01:23:14,880
of

2414
01:23:23,510 --> 01:23:22,880
you're gonna have some angry angry

2415
01:23:24,870 --> 01:23:23,520
people

2416
01:23:26,790 --> 01:23:24,880
but not only that you're gonna have a

2417
01:23:28,470 --> 01:23:26,800
lot of people in this community

2418
01:23:30,629 --> 01:23:28,480
that can see through the [\h__\h] and

2419
01:23:32,629 --> 01:23:30,639
call out the military industrial complex

2420
01:23:34,390 --> 01:23:32,639
when it starts working its magic

2421
01:23:36,070 --> 01:23:34,400
and that's why i don't really have a lot

2422
01:23:37,350 --> 01:23:36,080
of worry about it and that's why i love

2423
01:23:40,310 --> 01:23:37,360
my channel because

2424
01:23:40,709 --> 01:23:40,320
i talk about stuff like that i see when

2425
01:23:47,350 --> 01:23:40,719
they're

2426
01:23:50,470 --> 01:23:47,360
brand new b52

2427
01:23:53,910 --> 01:23:50,480
drone jets um you know

2428
01:23:55,590 --> 01:23:53,920
uh and they cost uh half a billion

2429
01:23:56,470 --> 01:23:55,600
dollars a piece

2430
01:23:59,110 --> 01:23:56,480
you know that means that they're

2431
01:24:00,629 --> 01:23:59,120
spending 50 billion dollars on a hundred

2432
01:24:02,550 --> 01:24:00,639
of them

2433
01:24:04,310 --> 01:24:02,560
that makes my ears perk up you know what

2434
01:24:06,870 --> 01:24:04,320
i'm saying but then i also look at that

2435
01:24:08,950 --> 01:24:06,880
and i say 50 billion dollars

2436
01:24:10,870 --> 01:24:08,960
for a drone that looks almost exactly

2437
01:24:14,149 --> 01:24:10,880
like a b2 bomber

2438
01:24:16,070 --> 01:24:14,159
dude if they were making ufos or or they

2439
01:24:18,870 --> 01:24:16,080
had any sort of secret tech on

2440
01:24:19,910 --> 01:24:18,880
that kind of level that people claim it

2441
01:24:23,030 --> 01:24:19,920
would be

2442
01:24:23,750 --> 01:24:23,040
trillions of dollars trillions of

2443
01:24:27,270 --> 01:24:23,760
dollars

2444
01:24:28,550 --> 01:24:27,280
just to develop one so that's why i find

2445
01:24:30,870 --> 01:24:28,560
it hard to believe

2446
01:24:32,470 --> 01:24:30,880
that our government has these things and

2447
01:24:34,709 --> 01:24:32,480
is working on them on a

2448
01:24:35,990 --> 01:24:34,719
like on a highly top secret level

2449
01:24:38,550 --> 01:24:36,000
because i think there would be

2450
01:24:39,910 --> 01:24:38,560
for trillions of dollars you bet your

2451
01:24:41,590 --> 01:24:39,920
ass is going to be with some receipts

2452
01:24:42,149 --> 01:24:41,600
that lead to that you can't hide that

2453
01:24:45,350 --> 01:24:42,159
much

2454
01:24:47,350 --> 01:24:45,360
like our our entire uh uh

2455
01:24:48,470 --> 01:24:47,360
budget for the year is three trillion

2456
01:24:50,149 --> 01:24:48,480
dollars like

2457
01:24:53,590 --> 01:24:50,159
you're telling me that somebody is

2458
01:24:56,390 --> 01:24:53,600
hiding a quarter of that spending

2459
01:24:58,870 --> 01:24:56,400
i would find that hard to believe i just

2460
01:25:01,350 --> 01:24:58,880
i you'd have to have a mountain of proof

2461
01:25:02,149 --> 01:25:01,360
okay so i i want to pose this question i

2462
01:25:03,590 --> 01:25:02,159
mean

2463
01:25:05,669 --> 01:25:03,600
let me know if i'm going off the deep

2464
01:25:07,430 --> 01:25:05,679
rail no no go for it but there

2465
01:25:09,669 --> 01:25:07,440
there's there's an idea that i'm open to

2466
01:25:11,110 --> 01:25:09,679
and yeah you know i i try to stay

2467
01:25:13,910 --> 01:25:11,120
open-minded but there there are many

2468
01:25:17,189 --> 01:25:13,920
people that i've heard of and

2469
01:25:18,470 --> 01:25:17,199
uh that have been through these these

2470
01:25:20,229 --> 01:25:18,480
programs where

2471
01:25:21,830 --> 01:25:20,239
they believe they were and i'm not

2472
01:25:23,270 --> 01:25:21,840
saying that i fully believe this but i'm

2473
01:25:25,590 --> 01:25:23,280
just open to the idea

2474
01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:25,600
they they had lived 20 years it's called

2475
01:25:28,070 --> 01:25:26,320
the 20 and

2476
01:25:29,430 --> 01:25:28,080
back program where they had lived either

2477
01:25:31,430 --> 01:25:29,440
on the moon or

2478
01:25:32,950 --> 01:25:31,440
on on mars and i know this like

2479
01:25:34,149 --> 01:25:32,960
sometimes people like when they hear

2480
01:25:35,030 --> 01:25:34,159
this [\h__\h] they're like all right click

2481
01:25:36,709 --> 01:25:35,040
they're out but

2482
01:25:38,229 --> 01:25:36,719
yeah let's just i mean i think it's i

2483
01:25:40,550 --> 01:25:38,239
think it's an entertaining idea

2484
01:25:41,750 --> 01:25:40,560
sure so we're talking about the united

2485
01:25:43,669 --> 01:25:41,760
states banking system

2486
01:25:45,990 --> 01:25:43,679
and looking at our black budget project

2487
01:25:48,870 --> 01:25:46,000
and being able to trace that

2488
01:25:50,550 --> 01:25:48,880
that uh those receipts right well well

2489
01:25:51,910 --> 01:25:50,560
what if it was a different bank what if

2490
01:25:52,870 --> 01:25:51,920
it was a different country altogether

2491
01:25:54,790 --> 01:25:52,880
what if it was a

2492
01:25:56,950 --> 01:25:54,800
different currency different currency

2493
01:25:57,750 --> 01:25:56,960
altogether then we would not be able to

2494
01:26:00,390 --> 01:25:57,760
track that

2495
01:26:01,910 --> 01:26:00,400
at all so i would i would have a heart i

2496
01:26:02,870 --> 01:26:01,920
would have a hard time believing that

2497
01:26:05,270 --> 01:26:02,880
you'd be

2498
01:26:08,229 --> 01:26:05,280
currency gets its value from trading it

2499
01:26:09,110 --> 01:26:08,239
okay so what about humans what about

2500
01:26:12,390 --> 01:26:09,120
humans

2501
01:26:15,830 --> 01:26:12,400
well if you had a force a a a

2502
01:26:20,070 --> 01:26:15,840
uh an an off world or off planet or

2503
01:26:20,790 --> 01:26:20,080
sub sea uh uh generation of people that

2504
01:26:23,030 --> 01:26:20,800
have been

2505
01:26:24,229 --> 01:26:23,040
you know bred underground or are

2506
01:26:27,350 --> 01:26:24,239
underneath the sea

2507
01:26:29,910 --> 01:26:27,360
to to only specifically

2508
01:26:31,510 --> 01:26:29,920
work and build on ufos and this

2509
01:26:32,790 --> 01:26:31,520
technology that's been hidden from the

2510
01:26:34,470 --> 01:26:32,800
general public

2511
01:26:36,310 --> 01:26:34,480
i mean because that's all they know

2512
01:26:39,910 --> 01:26:36,320
that's their life sure

2513
01:26:41,030 --> 01:26:39,920
maybe i don't buy it i don't buy it and

2514
01:26:43,990 --> 01:26:41,040
i'll tell you

2515
01:26:45,350 --> 01:26:44,000
um it's not look i'm not saying it's

2516
01:26:48,390 --> 01:26:45,360
impossible

2517
01:26:50,470 --> 01:26:48,400
i'm just saying you gotta prove it yeah

2518
01:26:51,910 --> 01:26:50,480
you have to have to prove it and and

2519
01:26:53,510 --> 01:26:51,920
especially if i'm going to take it to a

2520
01:26:57,110 --> 01:26:53,520
member of congress but let's just play

2521
01:27:00,310 --> 01:26:59,030
how many p how how many people are on

2522
01:27:03,350 --> 01:27:00,320
this supposed base

2523
01:27:07,270 --> 01:27:05,110
it depends i mean how many people does

2524
01:27:10,070 --> 01:27:07,280
it take to build a cruise ship

2525
01:27:10,870 --> 01:27:10,080
yeah like i'm not going to do this look

2526
01:27:12,070 --> 01:27:10,880
at thousands

2527
01:27:13,590 --> 01:27:12,080
i'm not saying that i believe that

2528
01:27:14,790 --> 01:27:13,600
there's people yeah build a shell on the

2529
01:27:16,709 --> 01:27:14,800
moon man i'm just yeah

2530
01:27:17,990 --> 01:27:16,719
no i i get what you're conversation no

2531
01:27:20,390 --> 01:27:18,000
no no for sure but

2532
01:27:21,189 --> 01:27:20,400
all i would say and this is what science

2533
01:27:25,270 --> 01:27:21,199
does

2534
01:27:28,310 --> 01:27:25,280
is look at other examples that are close

2535
01:27:31,669 --> 01:27:28,320
to something like that and the closest

2536
01:27:35,270 --> 01:27:31,679
example i could think of is elon musk

2537
01:27:39,110 --> 01:27:35,280
right he is spent

2538
01:27:43,110 --> 01:27:39,120
and is building his entire fortune

2539
01:27:46,149 --> 01:27:43,120
on being the first dude to mars

2540
01:27:46,950 --> 01:27:46,159
look how many people it is taking and

2541
01:27:50,149 --> 01:27:46,960
how many

2542
01:27:53,990 --> 01:27:50,159
trillions of dollars he's spending

2543
01:27:58,070 --> 01:27:54,000
to accomplish that yeah

2544
01:28:02,709 --> 01:27:58,080
it is a massive massive undertaking

2545
01:28:06,310 --> 01:28:04,310
he's public though he's a public fighter

2546
01:28:07,910 --> 01:28:06,320
he's a public figure but if that was a

2547
01:28:10,550 --> 01:28:07,920
private entity

2548
01:28:11,110 --> 01:28:10,560
that was in a base somewhere either on

2549
01:28:14,790 --> 01:28:11,120
on our

2550
01:28:16,550 --> 01:28:14,800
body

2551
01:28:18,470 --> 01:28:16,560
you would have to have constant

2552
01:28:19,910 --> 01:28:18,480
transports back and forth you have to

2553
01:28:21,430 --> 01:28:19,920
feed these people you have to clothe

2554
01:28:22,870 --> 01:28:21,440
these people you have to house these

2555
01:28:24,310 --> 01:28:22,880
people even if they're living in an

2556
01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:24,320
environment where maybe they don't

2557
01:28:27,590 --> 01:28:25,920
understand where they're at

2558
01:28:29,430 --> 01:28:27,600
and they think their only function is

2559
01:28:31,270 --> 01:28:29,440
like an ant and that is to go to work

2560
01:28:33,110 --> 01:28:31,280
and build this whatever

2561
01:28:34,390 --> 01:28:33,120
um have you heard of phil schneider's

2562
01:28:37,510 --> 01:28:34,400
story i have

2563
01:28:39,430 --> 01:28:37,520
i don't believe it really oh my gosh

2564
01:28:41,189 --> 01:28:39,440
don't believe it man look these are

2565
01:28:43,910 --> 01:28:41,199
these are all things that i have

2566
01:28:45,590 --> 01:28:43,920
delved into a lot and this is why i came

2567
01:28:46,229 --> 01:28:45,600
to this at the beginning with a lot of

2568
01:28:47,510 --> 01:28:46,239
anger

2569
01:28:49,110 --> 01:28:47,520
because i started finding the

2570
01:28:50,950 --> 01:28:49,120
information that was proving a lot of

2571
01:28:53,189 --> 01:28:50,960
these guys to be full of [\h__\h]

2572
01:28:55,270 --> 01:28:53,199
and here's the bottom line it's not even

2573
01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:55,280
so much that they're full of [\h__\h] man

2574
01:29:00,629 --> 01:28:58,560
it's that they don't have the proof they

2575
01:29:04,149 --> 01:29:00,639
don't have the proof

2576
01:29:06,070 --> 01:29:04,159
and i mean did you watch the joe rogan

2577
01:29:09,110 --> 01:29:06,080
interview with chris mellon

2578
01:29:11,990 --> 01:29:09,120
i did okay did you see the part where

2579
01:29:15,430 --> 01:29:12,000
they started talking about bob lazar

2580
01:29:18,790 --> 01:29:15,440
yeah i did it was very interesting every

2581
01:29:20,629 --> 01:29:18,800
single thing that joe rogan put on the

2582
01:29:24,149 --> 01:29:20,639
table as a truth

2583
01:29:24,790 --> 01:29:24,159
or a thing that he was convinced by bob

2584
01:29:27,030 --> 01:29:24,800
as

2585
01:29:28,310 --> 01:29:27,040
oh this is actually true christopher

2586
01:29:31,430 --> 01:29:28,320
mellon

2587
01:29:33,510 --> 01:29:31,440
would hit him with uh

2588
01:29:35,669 --> 01:29:33,520
he did it in a very respectful way in a

2589
01:29:36,310 --> 01:29:35,679
very respectful way as respectful as you

2590
01:29:38,229 --> 01:29:36,320
could

2591
01:29:39,350 --> 01:29:38,239
but every point there was something you

2592
01:29:42,310 --> 01:29:39,360
could tell he

2593
01:29:44,070 --> 01:29:42,320
he he knew something he had the

2594
01:29:47,510 --> 01:29:44,080
information on this guy you could

2595
01:29:49,030 --> 01:29:47,520
tell and he just wanted to i felt like

2596
01:29:51,430 --> 01:29:49,040
he wanted to be like

2597
01:29:52,070 --> 01:29:51,440
no that's incorrect and i'll tell you

2598
01:29:53,189 --> 01:29:52,080
why

2599
01:29:55,990 --> 01:29:53,199
but he didn't want to start a

2600
01:29:57,510 --> 01:29:56,000
controversy because bob lazar is a

2601
01:30:00,149 --> 01:29:57,520
lightning rod for this

2602
01:30:01,030 --> 01:30:00,159
because it's like well you know part of

2603
01:30:03,030 --> 01:30:01,040
the community is

2604
01:30:04,070 --> 01:30:03,040
adamant that he's telling the truth part

2605
01:30:06,390 --> 01:30:04,080
of the community is

2606
01:30:07,270 --> 01:30:06,400
very adamant that he's not i don't care

2607
01:30:09,270 --> 01:30:07,280
anymore

2608
01:30:12,229 --> 01:30:09,280
what i care about is that his story

2609
01:30:14,149 --> 01:30:12,239
inspires people to look at the topic

2610
01:30:15,990 --> 01:30:14,159
so that's where i'm at when it comes to

2611
01:30:19,350 --> 01:30:16,000
him but i found it interesting

2612
01:30:21,430 --> 01:30:19,360
that as soon as joe rogan was like

2613
01:30:23,270 --> 01:30:21,440
oh i've got some stuff about bob and

2614
01:30:25,669 --> 01:30:23,280
into why his school records

2615
01:30:27,189 --> 01:30:25,679
may have looked like he was lying and uh

2616
01:30:29,110 --> 01:30:27,199
and i'll tell you off air and then

2617
01:30:30,950 --> 01:30:29,120
christopher mellon hit him back with

2618
01:30:32,390 --> 01:30:30,960
well i've also got some things that i

2619
01:30:35,430 --> 01:30:32,400
can i'll tell you off there

2620
01:30:36,950 --> 01:30:35,440
you know and and i know so i know

2621
01:30:39,510 --> 01:30:36,960
i know some of the things that

2622
01:30:41,270 --> 01:30:39,520
christopher mellon told joe rogan

2623
01:30:42,950 --> 01:30:41,280
are you going to tell us off here for

2624
01:30:46,470 --> 01:30:42,960
sure for sure

2625
01:30:48,390 --> 01:30:46,480
say it on air

2626
01:30:49,910 --> 01:30:48,400
i've said it on there but you can go

2627
01:30:51,590 --> 01:30:49,920
back if you really want me to if you

2628
01:30:53,910 --> 01:30:51,600
want to know what i feel about bubbles

2629
01:30:55,110 --> 01:30:53,920
you can see you can see the transition i

2630
01:30:58,390 --> 01:30:55,120
made on

2631
01:31:00,310 --> 01:30:58,400
bob lazar i literally went from a 100

2632
01:31:01,750 --> 01:31:00,320
believer and you can see the transition

2633
01:31:04,149 --> 01:31:01,760
in my videos to

2634
01:31:05,990 --> 01:31:04,159
not believing him and there was a lot of

2635
01:31:07,110 --> 01:31:06,000
research i did to come to that

2636
01:31:10,470 --> 01:31:07,120
conclusion

2637
01:31:13,590 --> 01:31:10,480
um there are aspects to that story

2638
01:31:15,510 --> 01:31:13,600
he did work at area 51 without a doubt

2639
01:31:16,870 --> 01:31:15,520
but according to christopher mellon he

2640
01:31:18,629 --> 01:31:16,880
was a radiation

2641
01:31:20,310 --> 01:31:18,639
guy he was there to check radiation on

2642
01:31:21,430 --> 01:31:20,320
things he didn't work in any top secret

2643
01:31:29,510 --> 01:31:21,440
thing

2644
01:31:33,750 --> 01:31:29,520
that are just super super super shady

2645
01:31:36,629 --> 01:31:33,760
and if you have do you guys have kids

2646
01:31:37,510 --> 01:31:36,639
joe does and i i don't remember i don't

2647
01:31:40,790 --> 01:31:37,520
know if you'd let

2648
01:31:42,070 --> 01:31:40,800
bob lazar babysit your kids well

2649
01:31:44,070 --> 01:31:42,080
you know what i mean we all know the

2650
01:31:46,149 --> 01:31:44,080
brothel thing right i mean that that

2651
01:31:47,910 --> 01:31:46,159
was that's public knowledge that's not

2652
01:31:50,310 --> 01:31:47,920
he was a pimp

2653
01:31:52,229 --> 01:31:50,320
yeah like and i know that's a very harsh

2654
01:31:55,990 --> 01:31:52,239
way to put it but that's what he

2655
01:31:57,590 --> 01:31:56,000
was he is not

2656
01:31:59,270 --> 01:31:57,600
everybody knows it's not easy no it's

2657
01:32:01,350 --> 01:31:59,280
not but i mean this isn't like

2658
01:32:03,270 --> 01:32:01,360
like you know this is not a song you

2659
01:32:06,310 --> 01:32:03,280
know what i'm saying it's not like a jc

2660
01:32:06,709 --> 01:32:06,320
it's not it's it's not a jay-z song like

2661
01:32:09,910 --> 01:32:06,719
it's

2662
01:32:12,550 --> 01:32:09,920
to do

2663
01:32:14,149 --> 01:32:12,560
and i and i sit back and i say to myself

2664
01:32:15,750 --> 01:32:14,159
man what kind of childhood or what kind

2665
01:32:18,149 --> 01:32:15,760
of parents does he have

2666
01:32:18,790 --> 01:32:18,159
if they're okay with him doing this like

2667
01:32:22,149 --> 01:32:18,800
how

2668
01:32:25,590 --> 01:32:22,159
you know what i'm saying like that's a

2669
01:32:29,030 --> 01:32:25,600
very very odd career choice

2670
01:32:30,950 --> 01:32:29,040
to rent out two apartments connect them

2671
01:32:32,229 --> 01:32:30,960
hook them up with a security system and

2672
01:32:35,270 --> 01:32:32,239
then charge

2673
01:32:37,750 --> 01:32:35,280
that came in there

2674
01:32:38,629 --> 01:32:37,760
money and split the profits 50 50 with

2675
01:32:41,830 --> 01:32:38,639
these women

2676
01:32:42,550 --> 01:32:41,840
like that is a insane insane career

2677
01:32:45,669 --> 01:32:42,560
choice

2678
01:32:46,629 --> 01:32:45,679
insane um and so i start to think of

2679
01:32:50,070 --> 01:32:46,639
well

2680
01:32:52,950 --> 01:32:50,080
if somebody had the ability to do that

2681
01:32:53,669 --> 01:32:52,960
you know why would the government trust

2682
01:32:56,950 --> 01:32:53,679
them with

2683
01:32:57,510 --> 01:32:56,960
anything right anything on that kind of

2684
01:33:01,750 --> 01:32:57,520
level

2685
01:33:03,830 --> 01:33:01,760
combat that i mean we

2686
01:33:04,870 --> 01:33:03,840
we i mean staying open-minded about that

2687
01:33:07,830 --> 01:33:04,880
yeah

2688
01:33:08,390 --> 01:33:07,840
how do we prove that that is a truth as

2689
01:33:10,790 --> 01:33:08,400
well

2690
01:33:11,910 --> 01:33:10,800
because there's a court affidavit he

2691
01:33:14,709 --> 01:33:11,920
went to court

2692
01:33:15,910 --> 01:33:14,719
he got arrested like there's there's a

2693
01:33:27,270 --> 01:33:15,920
paper trail

2694
01:33:29,830 --> 01:33:27,280
alamos you know there it there is rumors

2695
01:33:31,990 --> 01:33:29,840
that he actually did work at area 51 but

2696
01:33:35,110 --> 01:33:32,000
just not in the place he said he did

2697
01:33:36,629 --> 01:33:35,120
and it's very conceivable and melon said

2698
01:33:39,750 --> 01:33:36,639
this on his show

2699
01:33:41,990 --> 01:33:39,760
that there was a bar out by area 51 that

2700
01:33:44,310 --> 01:33:42,000
all the pilots and everyone who worked

2701
01:33:46,470 --> 01:33:44,320
there they all hung out there

2702
01:33:48,550 --> 01:33:46,480
and he would go to that bar and hear

2703
01:33:49,990 --> 01:33:48,560
[\h__\h] and then he would take that stuff

2704
01:33:52,790 --> 01:33:50,000
and he would repeat it to other

2705
01:33:54,470 --> 01:33:52,800
people as oh yeah i do this and he and

2706
01:33:56,149 --> 01:33:54,480
he would convince him because he's very

2707
01:33:59,750 --> 01:33:56,159
convincing he's a very smart

2708
01:34:02,149 --> 01:33:59,760
dude he is he is smart there's no doubt

2709
01:34:02,950 --> 01:34:02,159
i think that so dude i love what you're

2710
01:34:04,149 --> 01:34:02,960
saying because

2711
01:34:06,229 --> 01:34:04,159
these are all like this is the

2712
01:34:08,470 --> 01:34:06,239
discussion we have to have like right

2713
01:34:10,070 --> 01:34:08,480
you can't get heated or like so invested

2714
01:34:11,669 --> 01:34:10,080
in one side of the other leg and that's

2715
01:34:13,990 --> 01:34:11,679
what i was doing wrong at the beginning

2716
01:34:14,550 --> 01:34:14,000
is i got mad about it because i believed

2717
01:34:16,709 --> 01:34:14,560
bob

2718
01:34:18,390 --> 01:34:16,719
like i wanted with all of my life to

2719
01:34:21,270 --> 01:34:18,400
believe him because he was

2720
01:34:23,110 --> 01:34:21,280
i and i've said this he weaponized my

2721
01:34:25,189 --> 01:34:23,120
curiosity it's true i know it's

2722
01:34:26,709 --> 01:34:25,199
like that's what jesus some people say

2723
01:34:31,030 --> 01:34:26,719
it's a cheesy saying but it's

2724
01:34:33,830 --> 01:34:31,040
true man like that story has convinced

2725
01:34:35,430 --> 01:34:33,840
not only joe rogan but it's convinced

2726
01:34:37,990 --> 01:34:35,440
david fravor that's that's

2727
01:34:41,430 --> 01:34:38,000
something to be said for that right yeah

2728
01:34:45,590 --> 01:34:41,440
but it doesn't seem to have convinced

2729
01:34:48,149 --> 01:34:45,600
lou elizondo or christopher mellon

2730
01:34:48,709 --> 01:34:48,159
the weaponizing curiosity i love that

2731
01:34:51,910 --> 01:34:48,719
man

2732
01:34:54,629 --> 01:34:51,920
like i what you don't like it

2733
01:34:57,669 --> 01:34:54,639
look i just i just have such a hard time

2734
01:35:01,189 --> 01:34:59,750
i like it i'm sorry i'm sorry i've just

2735
01:35:04,229 --> 01:35:01,199
always been that way where

2736
01:35:06,310 --> 01:35:04,239
we're like if if if an official person

2737
01:35:08,950 --> 01:35:06,320
is like coming out and saying something

2738
01:35:12,550 --> 01:35:10,310
how do we know that they're telling the

2739
01:35:15,830 --> 01:35:12,560
truth all the time as well you don't

2740
01:35:18,870 --> 01:35:15,840
you know especially with bob

2741
01:35:20,870 --> 01:35:18,880
if yeah he may have been a pimp yeah

2742
01:35:22,149 --> 01:35:20,880
he may have done some like weird [\h__\h]

2743
01:35:25,669 --> 01:35:22,159
up [\h__\h] but

2744
01:35:27,350 --> 01:35:25,679
if he did work at s4 they're not gonna

2745
01:35:29,350 --> 01:35:27,360
tell you that he worked at s4 they're

2746
01:35:29,750 --> 01:35:29,360
going to be like nah he was a radiation

2747
01:35:34,870 --> 01:35:29,760
guy

2748
01:35:36,790 --> 01:35:34,880
more of a reason to hire him because he

2749
01:35:39,510 --> 01:35:36,800
does have a shady past

2750
01:35:40,470 --> 01:35:39,520
exactly that's that's i mean that's a

2751
01:35:43,990 --> 01:35:40,480
theory put out

2752
01:35:45,510 --> 01:35:44,000
as yeah i understand what you guys are

2753
01:35:50,950 --> 01:35:45,520
saying

2754
01:35:52,790 --> 01:35:50,960
i'm i'm a texas boy so i'm very like

2755
01:35:54,470 --> 01:35:52,800
no dude i'm a ki i'm a cuban guy

2756
01:35:55,910 --> 01:35:54,480
sometimes i get animated too it's all

2757
01:35:56,550 --> 01:35:55,920
good i know you're not angry you're just

2758
01:35:58,149 --> 01:35:56,560
passionate

2759
01:35:59,910 --> 01:35:58,159
yeah really i'm talking about just

2760
01:36:02,390 --> 01:35:59,920
independence and like not

2761
01:36:04,470 --> 01:36:02,400
anti-government but very independent

2762
01:36:07,510 --> 01:36:04,480
from a government and needing them

2763
01:36:09,189 --> 01:36:07,520
and caring about what they say

2764
01:36:11,590 --> 01:36:09,199
i have to pee real quick i'll be right

2765
01:36:14,709 --> 01:36:11,600
back well look i'm at my core i'm

2766
01:36:15,669 --> 01:36:14,719
i'm uh i'm i have a lot of libertarian

2767
01:36:18,310 --> 01:36:15,679
leanings

2768
01:36:19,750 --> 01:36:18,320
you know so i i'm also in that camp but

2769
01:36:22,470 --> 01:36:19,760
i also think that there's

2770
01:36:23,510 --> 01:36:22,480
value in government in certain places um

2771
01:36:25,510 --> 01:36:23,520
you know and that's

2772
01:36:26,870 --> 01:36:25,520
that's a whole different i think we

2773
01:36:29,510 --> 01:36:26,880
don't see

2774
01:36:31,030 --> 01:36:29,520
government working at its at its highest

2775
01:36:32,470 --> 01:36:31,040
efficiency because we don't invest the

2776
01:36:34,950 --> 01:36:32,480
dollars in government to

2777
01:36:35,590 --> 01:36:34,960
make it efficient we rather spend it on

2778
01:36:37,669 --> 01:36:35,600
wars

2779
01:36:40,390 --> 01:36:37,679
and other things the government would

2780
01:36:42,070 --> 01:36:40,400
rather spend it on wars and stuff

2781
01:36:43,430 --> 01:36:42,080
you know the aspects of the government

2782
01:36:44,550 --> 01:36:43,440
we can't just paint the entire

2783
01:36:46,390 --> 01:36:44,560
government with that and that's what

2784
01:36:48,229 --> 01:36:46,400
you know louis lozando's thing is like

2785
01:36:50,950 --> 01:36:48,239
you gotta understand the government

2786
01:36:51,350 --> 01:36:50,960
is us like it's our family members it's

2787
01:36:54,870 --> 01:36:51,360
like

2788
01:36:56,870 --> 01:36:54,880
you know my my my girlfriend's dad was a

2789
01:36:58,550 --> 01:36:56,880
navy man like you know like these are

2790
01:36:59,270 --> 01:36:58,560
normal everyday people that are not

2791
01:37:02,470 --> 01:36:59,280
there to

2792
01:37:04,870 --> 01:37:02,480
nefarious

2793
01:37:05,990 --> 01:37:04,880
uh agent of cover-up in lies and

2794
01:37:07,830 --> 01:37:06,000
deception

2795
01:37:09,270 --> 01:37:07,840
most of them are good people just trying

2796
01:37:10,470 --> 01:37:09,280
to do the right thing and i think that's

2797
01:37:12,149 --> 01:37:10,480
what lou is sort of

2798
01:37:13,990 --> 01:37:12,159
telling you that he is he's just like

2799
01:37:15,590 --> 01:37:14,000
look i'm i see a problem

2800
01:37:17,430 --> 01:37:15,600
i think it's a problem that needs to be

2801
01:37:20,070 --> 01:37:17,440
discussed and that's why i'm bringing it

2802
01:37:23,750 --> 01:37:20,080
to the american people so

2803
01:37:25,510 --> 01:37:23,760
that's why my my my fire for distrusting

2804
01:37:26,470 --> 01:37:25,520
the government has sort of subsided a

2805
01:37:28,870 --> 01:37:26,480
little bit

2806
01:37:30,149 --> 01:37:28,880
not that i don't think that the the

2807
01:37:33,030 --> 01:37:30,159
mistrust shouldn't be there i'm not

2808
01:37:35,189 --> 01:37:33,040
saying i trust them i'm just saying

2809
01:37:37,030 --> 01:37:35,199
we have to realize that you know that's

2810
01:37:38,550 --> 01:37:37,040
why i never got excited when

2811
01:37:40,229 --> 01:37:38,560
when people are like oh there's a coup

2812
01:37:42,070 --> 01:37:40,239
i'm like you call this a coup

2813
01:37:44,070 --> 01:37:42,080
like to me that's not a coup like that

2814
01:37:44,629 --> 01:37:44,080
was just like that was just a bunch of

2815
01:37:47,189 --> 01:37:44,639
idiots

2816
01:37:48,870 --> 01:37:47,199
you know rallying around a a capitol

2817
01:37:50,149 --> 01:37:48,880
building and they ended up killing

2818
01:37:52,070 --> 01:37:50,159
somebody but that was not a

2819
01:37:54,149 --> 01:37:52,080
coup like if you want to see a coup go

2820
01:37:56,870 --> 01:37:54,159
to venezuela go to colombia

2821
01:37:57,510 --> 01:37:56,880
go to you know uh any any one of these

2822
01:37:59,750 --> 01:37:57,520
african

2823
01:38:01,350 --> 01:37:59,760
you know war-torn countries and you'll

2824
01:38:04,550 --> 01:38:01,360
see a real coup there

2825
01:38:06,629 --> 01:38:04,560
this is all emotional theater correct

2826
01:38:08,550 --> 01:38:06,639
and it's it's it's it's just driven by

2827
01:38:10,149 --> 01:38:08,560
our 24-hour news but i mean just to get

2828
01:38:13,350 --> 01:38:10,159
back to

2829
01:38:16,149 --> 01:38:13,360
you know the thing that i saw

2830
01:38:18,310 --> 01:38:16,159
that really sort of opened my eyes to oh

2831
01:38:18,629 --> 01:38:18,320
man maybe bob's just not being honest

2832
01:38:20,310 --> 01:38:18,639
and

2833
01:38:22,550 --> 01:38:20,320
it was a real hard pill for me to

2834
01:38:25,030 --> 01:38:22,560
swallow but it was um

2835
01:38:27,189 --> 01:38:25,040
it was a great collection of body

2836
01:38:29,109 --> 01:38:27,199
language experts three of them

2837
01:38:31,990 --> 01:38:29,119
four of them actually four body language

2838
01:38:35,109 --> 01:38:32,000
experts that uh oh look at that bumpers

2839
01:38:37,189 --> 01:38:35,119
uh cool that

2840
01:38:38,790 --> 01:38:37,199
uh they were four body language experts

2841
01:38:41,350 --> 01:38:38,800
that looked at hours

2842
01:38:43,750 --> 01:38:41,360
in hours in hours of footage including

2843
01:38:45,590 --> 01:38:43,760
the joe rogan interview

2844
01:38:47,270 --> 01:38:45,600
and that was sort of the main the main

2845
01:38:50,950 --> 01:38:47,280
thing that they based all of their

2846
01:38:51,990 --> 01:38:50,960
analysis off of and these four body

2847
01:38:53,830 --> 01:38:52,000
language experts

2848
01:38:56,229 --> 01:38:53,840
are people who have interviewed

2849
01:38:58,709 --> 01:38:56,239
terrorists they've been in

2850
01:39:01,109 --> 01:38:58,719
classified situations for like the fbi

2851
01:39:04,709 --> 01:39:01,119
cia all those alphabet

2852
01:39:06,950 --> 01:39:04,719
um agencies they

2853
01:39:08,470 --> 01:39:06,960
it's an hour and a half long video and

2854
01:39:11,350 --> 01:39:08,480
and you have to watch the whole thing

2855
01:39:13,990 --> 01:39:11,360
and they preface this conversation with

2856
01:39:15,830 --> 01:39:14,000
one of them specifically was like before

2857
01:39:18,470 --> 01:39:15,840
i say anything i want to tell you

2858
01:39:20,709 --> 01:39:18,480
that i want to believe bob i there's

2859
01:39:22,629 --> 01:39:20,719
nothing more in the world that i want

2860
01:39:25,270 --> 01:39:22,639
than for this story to be

2861
01:39:26,149 --> 01:39:25,280
true that's what he prefaces in his

2862
01:39:29,430 --> 01:39:26,159
analysis with

2863
01:39:30,470 --> 01:39:29,440
and by the end of it all of them come to

2864
01:39:34,070 --> 01:39:30,480
the conclusion

2865
01:39:35,030 --> 01:39:34,080
that he is lying and there are snuggets

2866
01:39:36,629 --> 01:39:35,040
of truth

2867
01:39:38,950 --> 01:39:36,639
because there are things that are true

2868
01:39:42,149 --> 01:39:38,960
in there like los alamos and

2869
01:39:43,750 --> 01:39:42,159
area 51 and they ring very very true but

2870
01:39:46,550 --> 01:39:43,760
all of the other things around it

2871
01:39:47,669 --> 01:39:46,560
are very questionable now they say he

2872
01:39:49,590 --> 01:39:47,679
was lying but it was

2873
01:39:50,790 --> 01:39:49,600
very doubtful that he was telling the

2874
01:39:53,510 --> 01:39:50,800
truth

2875
01:39:53,990 --> 01:39:53,520
and those body language experts are so

2876
01:39:56,709 --> 01:39:54,000
interesting

2877
01:39:57,430 --> 01:39:56,719
man like they're crazy but here's the

2878
01:40:00,390 --> 01:39:57,440
thing that

2879
01:40:00,950 --> 01:40:00,400
convinced me that the body language

2880
01:40:03,189 --> 01:40:00,960
experts

2881
01:40:05,109 --> 01:40:03,199
weren't in on it with their personal

2882
01:40:08,070 --> 01:40:05,119
emotions and feelings

2883
01:40:08,950 --> 01:40:08,080
did you guys see the netflix unsolved

2884
01:40:11,990 --> 01:40:08,960
mysteries

2885
01:40:12,709 --> 01:40:12,000
special the new one with the berkshires

2886
01:40:14,550 --> 01:40:12,719
ufo

2887
01:40:16,149 --> 01:40:14,560
i think that's one of honestly one of

2888
01:40:19,750 --> 01:40:16,159
the best produced

2889
01:40:21,750 --> 01:40:19,760
stories on the uap topic i've ever seen

2890
01:40:23,350 --> 01:40:21,760
and it was just one episode of that yeah

2891
01:40:26,070 --> 01:40:23,360
just one episode but it was

2892
01:40:27,350 --> 01:40:26,080
really good right so the same body

2893
01:40:30,470 --> 01:40:27,360
language experts

2894
01:40:34,149 --> 01:40:30,480
went over that and by the end of

2895
01:40:35,669 --> 01:40:34,159
that they came to the conclusion that

2896
01:40:37,189 --> 01:40:35,679
almost everyone in there was being

2897
01:40:40,070 --> 01:40:37,199
honest especially two

2898
01:40:40,550 --> 01:40:40,080
specifically two witnesses so that told

2899
01:40:43,270 --> 01:40:40,560
me

2900
01:40:44,950 --> 01:40:43,280
and and they also brought in one of the

2901
01:40:48,070 --> 01:40:44,960
people from the documentary

2902
01:40:48,550 --> 01:40:48,080
to do a live body language analysis on

2903
01:40:51,590 --> 01:40:48,560
him

2904
01:40:53,030 --> 01:40:51,600
on their channel and he got into things

2905
01:40:56,149 --> 01:40:53,040
where he was explaining

2906
01:40:59,189 --> 01:40:56,159
a creature that looked like a mantis

2907
01:41:00,950 --> 01:40:59,199
really like he got into some weird parts

2908
01:41:03,189 --> 01:41:00,960
of the story

2909
01:41:03,990 --> 01:41:03,199
and they came to the conclusion at the

2910
01:41:07,590 --> 01:41:04,000
end of that that

2911
01:41:11,430 --> 01:41:07,600
he was being very honest

2912
01:41:13,510 --> 01:41:11,440
okay so that's why i go and i say

2913
01:41:14,870 --> 01:41:13,520
that's when i got really angry with the

2914
01:41:17,189 --> 01:41:14,880
bob lazar story

2915
01:41:19,030 --> 01:41:17,199
because that for me was just like that

2916
01:41:21,430 --> 01:41:19,040
mother bleeper

2917
01:41:23,109 --> 01:41:21,440
you know like he's been feeding us

2918
01:41:25,430 --> 01:41:23,119
[\h__\h]

2919
01:41:27,270 --> 01:41:25,440
and i uh i gotta i'm getting angry i get

2920
01:41:28,550 --> 01:41:27,280
emotional about it now because i don't

2921
01:41:32,229 --> 01:41:28,560
like to be

2922
01:41:34,790 --> 01:41:32,239
nobody likes to be

2923
01:41:35,990 --> 01:41:34,800
bamboozled if the there's one thing i

2924
01:41:38,470 --> 01:41:36,000
know

2925
01:41:39,830 --> 01:41:38,480
bob lazar i mean listen to what bigelow

2926
01:41:43,350 --> 01:41:39,840
said bigelow gave him an

2927
01:41:45,030 --> 01:41:43,360
entire research wing like he hired him

2928
01:41:48,229 --> 01:41:45,040
they gave him a lab

2929
01:41:49,189 --> 01:41:48,239
and bob put his goddamn furniture in

2930
01:41:51,590 --> 01:41:49,199
there

2931
01:41:53,189 --> 01:41:51,600
like because he was moving and bob

2932
01:41:55,669 --> 01:41:53,199
bigelow came back it's like what are you

2933
01:41:59,030 --> 01:41:55,679
doing you're fired get out of here

2934
01:42:01,910 --> 01:41:59,040
like like he's a weird quirky

2935
01:42:02,310 --> 01:42:01,920
very very quirky guy yeah and i think

2936
01:42:05,430 --> 01:42:02,320
he's

2937
01:42:09,030 --> 01:42:05,440
almost like remember that line in

2938
01:42:13,270 --> 01:42:09,040
uh in the dark night when michael

2939
01:42:15,750 --> 01:42:13,280
uh when when uh when batman

2940
01:42:16,310 --> 01:42:15,760
is they're talking about the joker and

2941
01:42:19,510 --> 01:42:16,320
he's

2942
01:42:21,830 --> 01:42:19,520
and he compares uh alfred was was like a

2943
01:42:23,830 --> 01:42:21,840
special forces guy back in the day

2944
01:42:25,430 --> 01:42:23,840
and he's they're looking for this jewel

2945
01:42:27,270 --> 01:42:25,440
thief in burma

2946
01:42:28,709 --> 01:42:27,280
and it turns out that this jewel thief

2947
01:42:29,750 --> 01:42:28,719
has been stealing these insanely

2948
01:42:31,990 --> 01:42:29,760
beautiful jewels

2949
01:42:33,830 --> 01:42:32,000
and he's been burning down cities and

2950
01:42:36,870 --> 01:42:33,840
all the jewels he's been stealing

2951
01:42:38,950 --> 01:42:36,880
and just leaving the jewels on the floor

2952
01:42:40,390 --> 01:42:38,960
for anybody to find he didn't keep him

2953
01:42:42,229 --> 01:42:40,400
and then and then batman's like well

2954
01:42:43,990 --> 01:42:42,239
what's the motivation behind that

2955
01:42:45,750 --> 01:42:44,000
and alfred says well sometimes people

2956
01:42:48,149 --> 01:42:45,760
just want to watch the world burn

2957
01:42:48,790 --> 01:42:48,159
oh you know what i mean like he's get he

2958
01:42:51,270 --> 01:42:48,800
gets a

2959
01:42:53,030 --> 01:42:51,280
kick out of it like he like like this is

2960
01:42:56,629 --> 01:42:53,040
a guy who built a jet car

2961
01:42:57,030 --> 01:42:56,639
in his garage like this is crazy he had

2962
01:43:00,390 --> 01:42:57,040
an

2963
01:43:02,470 --> 01:43:00,400
uzi he was a pimp like he was uh

2964
01:43:04,790 --> 01:43:02,480
there's one thing i know about bob lazar

2965
01:43:08,149 --> 01:43:04,800
that dude partied

2966
01:43:10,229 --> 01:43:08,159
dude partied bob party's hard

2967
01:43:12,149 --> 01:43:10,239
so here's one thing i i love talking

2968
01:43:13,910 --> 01:43:12,159
about bob like yeah i do too

2969
01:43:15,669 --> 01:43:13,920
we can go for hours i mean look if it

2970
01:43:17,030 --> 01:43:15,679
wasn't for bob lazar let me just say i

2971
01:43:17,430 --> 01:43:17,040
swear to god i'm sorry to cut you off

2972
01:43:20,629 --> 01:43:17,440
yeah

2973
01:43:22,149 --> 01:43:20,639
but if it wasn't for bob we would not be

2974
01:43:24,950 --> 01:43:22,159
here today

2975
01:43:25,590 --> 01:43:24,960
i 100 and that's what i love that's why

2976
01:43:27,510 --> 01:43:25,600
i say

2977
01:43:29,189 --> 01:43:27,520
i'm done with the [\h__\h] bob i like i

2978
01:43:32,149 --> 01:43:29,199
don't give a [\h__\h] anymore

2979
01:43:33,189 --> 01:43:32,159
because it's the story that is why we're

2980
01:43:34,709 --> 01:43:33,199
here

2981
01:43:36,550 --> 01:43:34,719
it's why we're even having the

2982
01:43:38,390 --> 01:43:36,560
conversation we're having dude and

2983
01:43:39,109 --> 01:43:38,400
that's what i love about the bob lazar

2984
01:43:42,229 --> 01:43:39,119
story

2985
01:43:43,109 --> 01:43:42,239
so we uh go ahead joe sorry oh i was

2986
01:43:46,149 --> 01:43:43,119
just gonna say

2987
01:43:49,430 --> 01:43:46,159
uh one of our good friends jim goodall

2988
01:43:50,709 --> 01:43:49,440
he actually uh knew john lear and and

2989
01:43:54,750 --> 01:43:50,719
bob lazar

2990
01:43:57,990 --> 01:43:54,760
and he had taken some photos of the

2991
01:44:01,109 --> 01:43:58,000
a117 i believe uh before

2992
01:44:03,590 --> 01:44:01,119
anybody knew it even existed yeah and uh

2993
01:44:05,830 --> 01:44:03,600
he wanted to get the film developed but

2994
01:44:06,790 --> 01:44:05,840
all the little kiosks were closed down

2995
01:44:09,669 --> 01:44:06,800
and so

2996
01:44:10,629 --> 01:44:09,679
him and lear were driving around and

2997
01:44:12,870 --> 01:44:10,639
lear says hey

2998
01:44:14,950 --> 01:44:12,880
i got a buddy who has his own you know

2999
01:44:17,109 --> 01:44:14,960
he can develop that film for you

3000
01:44:19,189 --> 01:44:17,119
and he says okay so they go and they

3001
01:44:21,030 --> 01:44:19,199
they pick up bob lazar

3002
01:44:22,790 --> 01:44:21,040
and bob was like he's got a printer at

3003
01:44:24,629 --> 01:44:22,800
his house yeah he was like i can

3004
01:44:26,390 --> 01:44:24,639
actually uh develop that film for you

3005
01:44:28,470 --> 01:44:26,400
this and that and so you know they go to

3006
01:44:30,950 --> 01:44:28,480
this gas station

3007
01:44:33,590 --> 01:44:30,960
and lear gets out to go get something

3008
01:44:36,070 --> 01:44:33,600
and bob lazar turns to gym and says

3009
01:44:36,870 --> 01:44:36,080
you know i feel bad for lear and jim

3010
01:44:40,310 --> 01:44:36,880
says

3011
01:44:41,990 --> 01:44:40,320
why and he's like well because you know

3012
01:44:43,910 --> 01:44:42,000
his family is like this huge

3013
01:44:46,149 --> 01:44:43,920
aviation company and they're super

3014
01:44:50,390 --> 01:44:46,159
successful and this dumb son of a [\h__\h]

3015
01:44:53,750 --> 01:44:52,709
and this is before he went to work at

3016
01:44:56,950 --> 01:44:53,760
area 51

3017
01:44:59,990 --> 01:44:56,960
s4 and that's bob lazar talking about

3018
01:45:02,709 --> 01:45:00,000
john lear right yeah well the story

3019
01:45:04,390 --> 01:45:02,719
the story that john lear said and this

3020
01:45:06,790 --> 01:45:04,400
was like another story i was like you

3021
01:45:09,669 --> 01:45:06,800
got to be kidding me this can't be true

3022
01:45:10,950 --> 01:45:09,679
john lear said and he first of all he i

3023
01:45:12,709 --> 01:45:10,960
think he was really pissed that he

3024
01:45:14,550 --> 01:45:12,719
wasn't in the documentary because he

3025
01:45:17,430 --> 01:45:14,560
does not like the documentary

3026
01:45:18,950 --> 01:45:17,440
at all um they did an interview with him

3027
01:45:21,750 --> 01:45:18,960
but the thing that i found interesting

3028
01:45:24,790 --> 01:45:21,760
that he said was

3029
01:45:28,470 --> 01:45:24,800
that when bob lazar

3030
01:45:29,430 --> 01:45:28,480
went to interview at area 51 for this

3031
01:45:32,870 --> 01:45:29,440
position at

3032
01:45:35,990 --> 01:45:32,880
s4 okay okay now think about this okay

3033
01:45:39,510 --> 01:45:36,000
think if this interview is real

3034
01:45:42,470 --> 01:45:39,520
the classification of security is at

3035
01:45:44,070 --> 01:45:42,480
probably the highest level okay like if

3036
01:45:45,990 --> 01:45:44,080
you're going into an interview

3037
01:45:47,990 --> 01:45:46,000
like that you could bet your ass that

3038
01:45:50,229 --> 01:45:48,000
you're probably going to be monitored

3039
01:45:51,830 --> 01:45:50,239
everywhere you go for the next three

3040
01:45:53,189 --> 01:45:51,840
weeks because they probably want to

3041
01:45:54,470 --> 01:45:53,199
figure out whether or not you're the

3042
01:45:57,510 --> 01:45:54,480
kind of guy who talks about

3043
01:46:00,470 --> 01:45:57,520
interviews that he went on so the first

3044
01:46:01,510 --> 01:46:00,480
thing according to john lear that bob

3045
01:46:04,629 --> 01:46:01,520
lazar does

3046
01:46:07,750 --> 01:46:04,639
when he leaves that interview at s4

3047
01:46:08,229 --> 01:46:07,760
he goes to john lear's house and tells

3048
01:46:10,390 --> 01:46:08,239
him

3049
01:46:13,510 --> 01:46:10,400
all about the interview that's out of

3050
01:46:16,310 --> 01:46:13,520
john lear's mouth

3051
01:46:16,790 --> 01:46:16,320
why would anyone that just finished it

3052
01:46:19,830 --> 01:46:16,800
why would

3053
01:46:21,830 --> 01:46:19,840
that be the first place you go and why

3054
01:46:23,750 --> 01:46:21,840
would you talk about it like that

3055
01:46:25,030 --> 01:46:23,760
i mean they were like they're like best

3056
01:46:26,790 --> 01:46:25,040
friends you know like

3057
01:46:30,229 --> 01:46:26,800
if they were best friends why wasn't he

3058
01:46:32,870 --> 01:46:30,239
in the movie oh

3059
01:46:34,709 --> 01:46:32,880
that's a good question i mean uh i i

3060
01:46:37,590 --> 01:46:34,719
can't really something happen there

3061
01:46:39,189 --> 01:46:37,600
i can't speak to to the the uh you know

3062
01:46:41,430 --> 01:46:39,199
the quality of their their friendship or

3063
01:46:44,550 --> 01:46:41,440
whatever i mean if i was

3064
01:46:47,750 --> 01:46:44,560
brought in to a secret government

3065
01:46:48,629 --> 01:46:47,760
uh project and i was like contributed to

3066
01:46:50,790 --> 01:46:48,639
it and they

3067
01:46:53,669 --> 01:46:50,800
it depends on what the alternate is if

3068
01:46:56,709 --> 01:46:53,679
you tell somebody you will die

3069
01:46:59,270 --> 01:46:56,719
i me i might not tell my best friend

3070
01:47:00,870 --> 01:46:59,280
hmm so i guess it maybe depends on that

3071
01:47:03,430 --> 01:47:00,880
it's like you have to look into like

3072
01:47:04,629 --> 01:47:03,440
sometimes you think do you think do you

3073
01:47:06,950 --> 01:47:04,639
really think

3074
01:47:10,149 --> 01:47:06,960
young and we're talking about bob lazar

3075
01:47:13,350 --> 01:47:10,159
was probably in his mid to late 30s

3076
01:47:15,590 --> 01:47:13,360
you know uzi caring rocket building

3077
01:47:17,430 --> 01:47:15,600
skinny pretty good looking gentleman bob

3078
01:47:20,950 --> 01:47:17,440
lazar

3079
01:47:22,229 --> 01:47:20,960
his best friend was a 65 70 year old

3080
01:47:25,990 --> 01:47:22,239
dude out in the middle of a

3081
01:47:28,950 --> 01:47:26,000
desert sure like i sh maybe

3082
01:47:29,270 --> 01:47:28,960
maybe but i just i don't know man i

3083
01:47:32,870 --> 01:47:29,280
don't

3084
01:47:34,310 --> 01:47:32,880
know and and look you if in my opinion

3085
01:47:36,310 --> 01:47:34,320
i don't think you're allowed to tell

3086
01:47:40,070 --> 01:47:36,320
that bob lazar story without

3087
01:47:40,550 --> 01:47:40,080
john lear yeah like there's a there's a

3088
01:47:43,430 --> 01:47:40,560
oh there's

3089
01:47:44,709 --> 01:47:43,440
so much to the story and man i i i know

3090
01:47:46,550 --> 01:47:44,719
we all i don't know how much time we

3091
01:47:47,030 --> 01:47:46,560
have left but i do want to ask one more

3092
01:47:48,870 --> 01:47:47,040
question

3093
01:47:50,229 --> 01:47:48,880
we'll be talking about bob lazar but

3094
01:47:52,709 --> 01:47:50,239
that kind of leads into

3095
01:47:53,669 --> 01:47:52,719
this this we were talking about the end

3096
01:47:55,590 --> 01:47:53,679
result like

3097
01:47:57,030 --> 01:47:55,600
where are we headed what answer do we

3098
01:47:58,790 --> 01:47:57,040
all want to know and and

3099
01:48:00,550 --> 01:47:58,800
and kind of zooming out for a second

3100
01:48:01,669 --> 01:48:00,560
because i think we're we're being very

3101
01:48:05,189 --> 01:48:01,679
microscopic

3102
01:48:07,270 --> 01:48:05,199
and like really but uh

3103
01:48:09,189 --> 01:48:07,280
my brain works in like you know zoom in

3104
01:48:10,550 --> 01:48:09,199
zoom out you know yeah yeah yeah so i

3105
01:48:13,669 --> 01:48:10,560
kind of want to zoom out for a second

3106
01:48:17,750 --> 01:48:13,679
like sure uh uh and jojo

3107
01:48:20,149 --> 01:48:17,760
mantu or lou like the end result like

3108
01:48:21,350 --> 01:48:20,159
i i've i had this i had this idea the

3109
01:48:24,470 --> 01:48:21,360
other night

3110
01:48:26,149 --> 01:48:24,480
where i i just i get in these like

3111
01:48:26,709 --> 01:48:26,159
creative moments where like i like to do

3112
01:48:28,470 --> 01:48:26,719
stuff and then

3113
01:48:30,390 --> 01:48:28,480
just ideas come to me you know i either

3114
01:48:32,070 --> 01:48:30,400
write a song or i draw something you

3115
01:48:35,350 --> 01:48:32,080
know i'm a graphic designer

3116
01:48:37,669 --> 01:48:35,360
and uh this this visual of of of

3117
01:48:38,709 --> 01:48:37,679
a taurus kind of shape but like

3118
01:48:41,350 --> 01:48:38,719
two-dimensional

3119
01:48:42,390 --> 01:48:41,360
you know fibonacci sequence where the

3120
01:48:44,870 --> 01:48:42,400
dot in the middle

3121
01:48:47,109 --> 01:48:44,880
will never grow but the outside circle

3122
01:48:47,830 --> 01:48:47,119
continuously grows you know infinitely

3123
01:48:49,590 --> 01:48:47,840
grows

3124
01:48:51,109 --> 01:48:49,600
and that's this visual that i kind of

3125
01:48:52,709 --> 01:48:51,119
was playing around with in my mind i'm

3126
01:48:53,910 --> 01:48:52,719
like oh that's interesting let me draw

3127
01:48:56,070 --> 01:48:53,920
some stuff

3128
01:48:57,669 --> 01:48:56,080
i i what i got from that as i'm like

3129
01:48:58,709 --> 01:48:57,679
kind of breaking this down in my head

3130
01:49:01,430 --> 01:48:58,719
like what does that mean

3131
01:49:02,709 --> 01:49:01,440
regarding this scenario this this topic

3132
01:49:03,109 --> 01:49:02,719
and where have we started where are we

3133
01:49:06,870 --> 01:49:03,119
gonna

3134
01:49:07,669 --> 01:49:06,880
the ending is nowhere in sight but one

3135
01:49:10,470 --> 01:49:07,679
of those endings

3136
01:49:12,070 --> 01:49:10,480
i i think that is that came to me and

3137
01:49:15,350 --> 01:49:12,080
that's interesting is

3138
01:49:17,430 --> 01:49:15,360
is is energy it's all about energy we

3139
01:49:18,629 --> 01:49:17,440
you know energy as we know can never be

3140
01:49:21,669 --> 01:49:18,639
created nor destroyed

3141
01:49:23,270 --> 01:49:21,679
it's it's forever so i mean if we're

3142
01:49:25,109 --> 01:49:23,280
looking at finite resources

3143
01:49:27,030 --> 01:49:25,119
and we're starting you know back to the

3144
01:49:28,790 --> 01:49:27,040
beginning of this whole conversation

3145
01:49:30,550 --> 01:49:28,800
we started talking about crude oil

3146
01:49:32,550 --> 01:49:30,560
electricity um

3147
01:49:34,470 --> 01:49:32,560
where what happens if it's a

3148
01:49:37,589 --> 01:49:34,480
civilization like ours

3149
01:49:38,870 --> 01:49:37,599
does be you know handed this this higher

3150
01:49:41,910 --> 01:49:38,880
technology but

3151
01:49:42,870 --> 01:49:41,920
the catch is that resource is a finite

3152
01:49:44,629 --> 01:49:42,880
resource

3153
01:49:46,470 --> 01:49:44,639
and uh not a lot of people want you to

3154
01:49:49,109 --> 01:49:46,480
know about that

3155
01:49:50,709 --> 01:49:49,119
and for you to go out and say look i

3156
01:49:53,189 --> 01:49:50,719
know that this technology exists i know

3157
01:49:55,669 --> 01:49:53,199
how it works i have a prototype but

3158
01:49:58,550 --> 01:49:55,679
it requires i mean we could talk about

3159
01:50:01,589 --> 01:49:58,560
element 115 as an example as a as a

3160
01:50:02,709 --> 01:50:01,599
a super structure an idea sure it's

3161
01:50:04,149 --> 01:50:02,719
probably not called that

3162
01:50:07,750 --> 01:50:04,159
probably called something else like

3163
01:50:10,390 --> 01:50:07,760
cheaper chiba chew yeah

3164
01:50:11,750 --> 01:50:10,400
but uh i mean what do you guys think of

3165
01:50:13,510 --> 01:50:11,760
that like

3166
01:50:15,189 --> 01:50:13,520
that would be a good reason to keep this

3167
01:50:16,149 --> 01:50:15,199
under wraps and that would be maybe a

3168
01:50:17,990 --> 01:50:16,159
good reason why we

3169
01:50:19,910 --> 01:50:18,000
have not achieved this level of

3170
01:50:21,350 --> 01:50:19,920
technology because it requires this

3171
01:50:27,189 --> 01:50:21,360
energy source

3172
01:50:33,350 --> 01:50:31,189
i think on the large scope this toroidal

3173
01:50:34,390 --> 01:50:33,360
shape that you have starting from the

3174
01:50:36,950 --> 01:50:34,400
beginning

3175
01:50:37,430 --> 01:50:36,960
uh that'll never grow but the outside

3176
01:50:40,229 --> 01:50:37,440
will

3177
01:50:42,070 --> 01:50:40,239
is i think it's a good representation of

3178
01:50:44,550 --> 01:50:42,080
this entire topic

3179
01:50:45,510 --> 01:50:44,560
we'll never get to that center point and

3180
01:50:48,790 --> 01:50:45,520
we'll never

3181
01:50:49,510 --> 01:50:48,800
know the actual beginning points of all

3182
01:50:52,070 --> 01:50:49,520
of this

3183
01:50:52,790 --> 01:50:52,080
all we can do is grow from the middle

3184
01:50:55,430 --> 01:50:52,800
out

3185
01:50:56,390 --> 01:50:55,440
and accept whatever we can whatever we

3186
01:50:58,870 --> 01:50:56,400
can get

3187
01:50:59,990 --> 01:50:58,880
so we need to hop in and we need to pay

3188
01:51:02,709 --> 01:51:00,000
attention

3189
01:51:03,830 --> 01:51:02,719
um because we're never gonna know the

3190
01:51:07,589 --> 01:51:03,840
center point

3191
01:51:08,709 --> 01:51:07,599
until one we die or two they show up and

3192
01:51:11,270 --> 01:51:08,719
tell us

3193
01:51:12,310 --> 01:51:11,280
because that's the real disclosure even

3194
01:51:13,990 --> 01:51:12,320
our government

3195
01:51:15,750 --> 01:51:14,000
after they tell us every single thing

3196
01:51:19,189 --> 01:51:15,760
that they know

3197
01:51:20,070 --> 01:51:19,199
that's still not the answer the only

3198
01:51:23,750 --> 01:51:20,080
real disclosure

3199
01:51:27,189 --> 01:51:23,760
is going to come from them yeah

3200
01:51:30,870 --> 01:51:27,199
um let me try and get you to think about

3201
01:51:37,270 --> 01:51:35,270
oh [\h__\h] what if it's not alien

3202
01:51:38,870 --> 01:51:37,280
and what and before i even go into that

3203
01:51:40,709 --> 01:51:38,880
theory

3204
01:51:44,470 --> 01:51:40,719
i want to go back to what you said ben

3205
01:51:47,189 --> 01:51:44,480
about original thought and inspiration

3206
01:51:49,750 --> 01:51:47,199
inspiration specifically you get

3207
01:51:52,070 --> 01:51:49,760
inspired you write a song

3208
01:51:53,750 --> 01:51:52,080
you draw something and you said

3209
01:51:54,870 --> 01:51:53,760
something that stuck out and this is

3210
01:51:56,390 --> 01:51:54,880
something that i really

3211
01:51:58,310 --> 01:51:56,400
picked up on here in the last couple

3212
01:51:59,430 --> 01:51:58,320
weeks that's why i'm very excited to

3213
01:52:03,510 --> 01:51:59,440
talk about it

3214
01:52:07,669 --> 01:52:03,520
yes the inspiration

3215
01:52:11,189 --> 01:52:07,679
part of that the popping in the head

3216
01:52:14,310 --> 01:52:11,199
inspiration is not an original thought

3217
01:52:16,709 --> 01:52:14,320
think about it like that okay

3218
01:52:17,990 --> 01:52:16,719
so if inspiration's not an original

3219
01:52:22,070 --> 01:52:18,000
thought

3220
01:52:25,669 --> 01:52:22,080
where does it come from what is it

3221
01:52:29,510 --> 01:52:25,679
okay now now what i'll say

3222
01:52:31,030 --> 01:52:29,520
i'll go back to it uh what louis lozando

3223
01:52:33,270 --> 01:52:31,040
there's a couple analogies he's thrown

3224
01:52:36,550 --> 01:52:33,280
out but one that i really like

3225
01:52:39,030 --> 01:52:36,560
is the cigarette okay

3226
01:52:40,470 --> 01:52:39,040
he talks about the cigarette and in the

3227
01:52:42,070 --> 01:52:40,480
ash of this cigarette

3228
01:52:44,310 --> 01:52:42,080
now let's just say the cigarette before

3229
01:52:47,589 --> 01:52:44,320
it's lit represents

3230
01:52:50,310 --> 01:52:47,599
all of it every dimension every space

3231
01:52:52,550 --> 01:52:50,320
every time anything and everything that

3232
01:52:55,910 --> 01:52:52,560
has ever happened in the history of

3233
01:52:57,430 --> 01:52:55,920
all of it and you

3234
01:52:59,430 --> 01:52:57,440
light the cigarette and now you're

3235
01:53:02,709 --> 01:52:59,440
smoking it okay

3236
01:53:03,510 --> 01:53:02,719
the ash is everything that we've gone up

3237
01:53:05,350 --> 01:53:03,520
to

3238
01:53:07,830 --> 01:53:05,360
everything that's been in the past from

3239
01:53:11,189 --> 01:53:07,840
the big bang to right now

3240
01:53:14,390 --> 01:53:11,199
the cherry is the moment

3241
01:53:15,030 --> 01:53:14,400
we're living it but there is multiple

3242
01:53:18,070 --> 01:53:15,040
versions

3243
01:53:19,030 --> 01:53:18,080
of the cherry but it don't think of it

3244
01:53:20,950 --> 01:53:19,040
as a linear thing

3245
01:53:23,030 --> 01:53:20,960
think of it as something that expands

3246
01:53:26,229 --> 01:53:23,040
like that circle you were saying

3247
01:53:29,430 --> 01:53:26,239
okay it goes in all directions

3248
01:53:34,470 --> 01:53:29,440
now the unsmoked part of the cigarette

3249
01:53:38,470 --> 01:53:36,629
now where this this is usually where the

3250
01:53:40,229 --> 01:53:38,480
analogy ends

3251
01:53:43,669 --> 01:53:40,239
well you have to start asking yourself

3252
01:53:46,390 --> 01:53:43,679
is who's smoking the cigarette

3253
01:53:47,109 --> 01:53:46,400
and whoever is smoking that cigarette do

3254
01:53:51,109 --> 01:53:47,119
they have

3255
01:53:54,070 --> 01:53:51,119
control over the

3256
01:53:54,870 --> 01:53:54,080
phenomena that we're dealing with

3257
01:53:56,870 --> 01:53:54,880
because

3258
01:53:57,910 --> 01:53:56,880
here's the thing about the cigarette

3259
01:54:01,189 --> 01:53:57,920
there's an end

3260
01:54:03,510 --> 01:54:01,199
to that cigarette at some point

3261
01:54:07,510 --> 01:54:03,520
the smoker of that cigarette is going to

3262
01:54:13,189 --> 01:54:10,550
who is smoking the cigarette ben

3263
01:54:14,149 --> 01:54:13,199
that's the big question now going back

3264
01:54:17,830 --> 01:54:14,159
to original

3265
01:54:20,709 --> 01:54:17,840
thought or inspiration not being an

3266
01:54:20,719 --> 01:54:24,149
imagine if you will

3267
01:54:29,030 --> 01:54:27,589
if you exist on all these different

3268
01:54:30,950 --> 01:54:29,040
planes of time but you

3269
01:54:33,830 --> 01:54:30,960
right here right now you're the cherry

3270
01:54:38,149 --> 01:54:33,840
of that cigarette

3271
01:54:41,750 --> 01:54:38,159
but the ash that song that you wrote

3272
01:54:43,510 --> 01:54:41,760
that inspired that popped in your head

3273
01:54:45,510 --> 01:54:43,520
how do you know that's not the version

3274
01:54:49,270 --> 01:54:45,520
of yourself that's in part

3275
01:54:53,030 --> 01:54:49,280
in the unsmoked part of that cigarette

3276
01:54:55,750 --> 01:54:53,040
coming to you in the moment yeah

3277
01:54:56,550 --> 01:54:55,760
popping that song in your head yeah or

3278
01:54:59,669 --> 01:54:56,560
popping e

3279
01:55:03,390 --> 01:54:59,679
equals m c squared in einstein's head

3280
01:55:05,709 --> 01:55:03,400
it is think of this as not

3281
01:55:07,430 --> 01:55:05,719
extraterrestrial but very much

3282
01:55:10,470 --> 01:55:07,440
terrestrial

3283
01:55:13,510 --> 01:55:10,480
and and throw on top of that

3284
01:55:16,310 --> 01:55:13,520
there might even be extraterrestrials

3285
01:55:18,790 --> 01:55:16,320
and phenomenal and weird things all that

3286
01:55:20,470 --> 01:55:18,800
that make up this entire

3287
01:55:22,629 --> 01:55:20,480
part of the cigarette that's been burnt

3288
01:55:25,589 --> 01:55:22,639
smoke through

3289
01:55:27,350 --> 01:55:25,599
but again the person who's smoking that

3290
01:55:29,589 --> 01:55:27,360
cigarette

3291
01:55:30,709 --> 01:55:29,599
has control of all of it so in other

3292
01:55:32,629 --> 01:55:30,719
words even those

3293
01:55:33,830 --> 01:55:32,639
alien beings that can traverse our

3294
01:55:36,950 --> 01:55:33,840
galaxies in

3295
01:55:40,870 --> 01:55:36,960
this blink of an eye if they exist

3296
01:55:44,149 --> 01:55:40,880
are also subject to the power of the

3297
01:55:45,510 --> 01:55:44,159
person smoking the cigarette

3298
01:55:47,510 --> 01:55:45,520
does that make sense when i'm laying

3299
01:55:50,149 --> 01:55:47,520
down on you i love that yeah i i

3300
01:55:51,109 --> 01:55:50,159
i haven't heard it in depth like that

3301
01:55:53,189 --> 01:55:51,119
i've just heard

3302
01:55:55,109 --> 01:55:53,199
the the reference to that analogy that

3303
01:55:56,470 --> 01:55:55,119
lou elizondo

3304
01:55:59,750 --> 01:55:56,480
has been talking about but that's like

3305
01:56:03,270 --> 01:55:59,760
the best version that i've heard so

3306
01:56:06,629 --> 01:56:03,280
the last the last two weeks of my life

3307
01:56:10,149 --> 01:56:06,639
have been nothing but a lightning rod

3308
01:56:13,669 --> 01:56:10,159
of inspirational thoughts something

3309
01:56:15,510 --> 01:56:13,679
has changed in me it is almost as if

3310
01:56:17,669 --> 01:56:15,520
someone's grabbed me by a cerebral

3311
01:56:19,750 --> 01:56:17,679
cortex and said all right let's go

3312
01:56:21,270 --> 01:56:19,760
i don't have any control about what

3313
01:56:24,310 --> 01:56:21,280
comes out like we

3314
01:56:27,030 --> 01:56:24,320
don't plan our shows

3315
01:56:29,830 --> 01:56:27,040
yeah you know the the the topics of the

3316
01:56:31,669 --> 01:56:29,840
shows come to me

3317
01:56:34,149 --> 01:56:31,679
through the day as soon as the one show

3318
01:56:35,990 --> 01:56:34,159
ends i get the next show before it

3319
01:56:37,750 --> 01:56:36,000
starts

3320
01:56:39,189 --> 01:56:37,760
and i'm not and i'm not worried about

3321
01:56:40,830 --> 01:56:39,199
where it's gonna come from i know it's

3322
01:56:43,030 --> 01:56:40,840
gonna come

3323
01:56:44,390 --> 01:56:43,040
yeah you know what i'm saying letting go

3324
01:56:47,189 --> 01:56:44,400
of all of this

3325
01:56:48,629 --> 01:56:47,199
anxiousness and fear and the things that

3326
01:56:51,910 --> 01:56:48,639
i have

3327
01:56:52,950 --> 01:56:51,920
zero control of for example my acting

3328
01:56:55,990 --> 01:56:52,960
career

3329
01:56:59,430 --> 01:56:56,000
i go out and audition and maybe i

3330
01:57:00,550 --> 01:56:59,440
nail it i think i absolutely knocked it

3331
01:57:02,790 --> 01:57:00,560
out of the park

3332
01:57:04,870 --> 01:57:02,800
maybe i get a call back then maybe i get

3333
01:57:06,470 --> 01:57:04,880
put on hold which means that you're one

3334
01:57:08,070 --> 01:57:06,480
of like two people that they're thinking

3335
01:57:09,589 --> 01:57:08,080
about making the part

3336
01:57:12,870 --> 01:57:09,599
but then you don't get it they end up

3337
01:57:15,189 --> 01:57:12,880
going with the other actor

3338
01:57:16,709 --> 01:57:15,199
like dude that's kind of what we're

3339
01:57:17,350 --> 01:57:16,719
dealing with here you know what i mean

3340
01:57:21,030 --> 01:57:17,360
like it's

3341
01:57:25,109 --> 01:57:21,040
it's it's dude this is

3342
01:57:27,669 --> 01:57:25,119
this i had all of those things that i

3343
01:57:30,390 --> 01:57:27,679
wanted in my acting career

3344
01:57:32,870 --> 01:57:30,400
i've recently go i have said to myself i

3345
01:57:35,270 --> 01:57:32,880
don't give a [\h__\h] about it anymore

3346
01:57:37,030 --> 01:57:35,280
and now the sudden i've got two

3347
01:57:38,470 --> 01:57:37,040
auditions i gotta work on that are due

3348
01:57:41,109 --> 01:57:38,480
monday for

3349
01:57:43,430 --> 01:57:41,119
big projects and i just got a film

3350
01:57:47,030 --> 01:57:43,440
accepted into a film festival

3351
01:57:49,430 --> 01:57:47,040
like just crazy i'm just like wow the

3352
01:57:52,390 --> 01:57:49,440
second i stopped giving a [\h__\h] about

3353
01:57:54,310 --> 01:57:52,400
it is the exact moment it all starts

3354
01:57:58,229 --> 01:57:54,320
coming to me

3355
01:57:59,669 --> 01:57:58,239
it dude it's hey congratulations man

3356
01:58:02,629 --> 01:57:59,679
that's awesome no it's not even i like

3357
01:58:04,470 --> 01:58:02,639
to congratulate it's a spiritual

3358
01:58:06,709 --> 01:58:04,480
awakening i don't care about the

3359
01:58:10,070 --> 01:58:06,719
auditions i could give two shits i don't

3360
01:58:13,270 --> 01:58:10,080
care i don't care ben if i get it

3361
01:58:15,030 --> 01:58:13,280
awesome if i don't honestly it does not

3362
01:58:16,310 --> 01:58:15,040
affect my day in the least because i'm

3363
01:58:20,070 --> 01:58:16,320
on a mission

3364
01:58:22,470 --> 01:58:20,080
like i'm on i'm on i'm on a higher

3365
01:58:24,310 --> 01:58:22,480
plane i've got a different path and if

3366
01:58:24,709 --> 01:58:24,320
that path wants to interject with this

3367
01:58:28,310 --> 01:58:24,719
one

3368
01:58:29,910 --> 01:58:28,320
great but if it doesn't i don't care

3369
01:58:31,109 --> 01:58:29,920
i i know joe you are going to say

3370
01:58:32,070 --> 01:58:31,119
something i just want to slip into

3371
01:58:34,390 --> 01:58:32,080
something really quick

3372
01:58:35,669 --> 01:58:34,400
luke absolutely i i've i've been

3373
01:58:39,270 --> 01:58:35,679
thinking about this idea that

3374
01:58:42,229 --> 01:58:39,280
that whatever you want in life

3375
01:58:43,350 --> 01:58:42,239
you have to be equally willing to lose

3376
01:58:46,070 --> 01:58:43,360
yes

3377
01:58:46,550 --> 01:58:46,080
and until you're at that point you're

3378
01:58:48,229 --> 01:58:46,560
never

3379
01:58:49,910 --> 01:58:48,239
you're not you're not even going to take

3380
01:58:51,910 --> 01:58:49,920
a step until you're

3381
01:58:53,830 --> 01:58:51,920
physically and mentally your

3382
01:58:56,950 --> 01:58:53,840
consciousness and your subconsciousness

3383
01:58:57,510 --> 01:58:56,960
agrees that you are willing to lose as

3384
01:58:59,990 --> 01:58:57,520
much

3385
01:59:01,830 --> 01:59:00,000
as you are willing to gain nothing's

3386
01:59:02,550 --> 01:59:01,840
going to happen bro if you're holding on

3387
01:59:04,709 --> 01:59:02,560
to that [\h__\h]

3388
01:59:06,149 --> 01:59:04,719
until you [\h__\h] let go and everybody

3389
01:59:07,910 --> 01:59:06,159
talks about you know

3390
01:59:09,669 --> 01:59:07,920
my life improved once i stopped giving a

3391
01:59:10,629 --> 01:59:09,679
[\h__\h] yeah something to it man there's

3392
01:59:13,910 --> 01:59:10,639
something to it

3393
01:59:15,270 --> 01:59:13,920
i cannot tell you for the last 20 years

3394
01:59:17,109 --> 01:59:15,280
man and

3395
01:59:18,310 --> 01:59:17,119
dude i could we could do a whole show on

3396
01:59:20,390 --> 01:59:18,320
just the bad

3397
01:59:21,430 --> 01:59:20,400
luck that i've had from an acting

3398
01:59:24,709 --> 01:59:21,440
standpoint like

3399
01:59:27,830 --> 01:59:24,719
some of the stories you wouldn't believe

3400
01:59:30,470 --> 01:59:27,840
like and and so much

3401
01:59:31,270 --> 01:59:30,480
heartbreak but even throughout all that

3402
01:59:33,750 --> 01:59:31,280
heartbreak

3403
01:59:35,669 --> 01:59:33,760
it's been building me it's been prepping

3404
01:59:38,870 --> 01:59:35,679
me for something

3405
01:59:40,709 --> 01:59:38,880
and i think this is what it is like

3406
01:59:43,510 --> 01:59:40,719
i have no choice in this anymore this is

3407
01:59:45,910 --> 01:59:43,520
out of my control like i don't

3408
01:59:47,350 --> 01:59:45,920
it's the it's the strangest thing to try

3409
01:59:50,870 --> 01:59:47,360
to even

3410
01:59:54,790 --> 01:59:50,880
articulate um

3411
01:59:57,350 --> 01:59:54,800
you know like i have i have

3412
01:59:59,350 --> 01:59:57,360
the disappointment jesus guys i can't

3413
02:00:00,070 --> 01:59:59,360
even begin to tell you because i wanted

3414
02:00:07,189 --> 02:00:00,080
it so

3415
02:00:09,189 --> 02:00:07,199
so close so many times and i'm like oh

3416
02:00:11,750 --> 02:00:09,199
my god what am i doing well i

3417
02:00:13,510 --> 02:00:11,760
like because i i committed 20 years ago

3418
02:00:14,950 --> 02:00:13,520
when i left for new york city i was like

3419
02:00:16,709 --> 02:00:14,960
okay i'm gonna be an actor

3420
02:00:18,390 --> 02:00:16,719
and if i'm gonna do this i need to

3421
02:00:20,629 --> 02:00:18,400
really

3422
02:00:22,629 --> 02:00:20,639
commit because i know going into this

3423
02:00:25,510 --> 02:00:22,639
this could be a 20-year thing

3424
02:00:25,990 --> 02:00:25,520
where i don't nothing happens you know

3425
02:00:27,589 --> 02:00:26,000
or

3426
02:00:29,669 --> 02:00:27,599
maybe i get little successes along the

3427
02:00:31,830 --> 02:00:29,679
way which is kind of what's happened

3428
02:00:32,709 --> 02:00:31,840
you know little you know parts on

3429
02:00:34,629 --> 02:00:32,719
network tv

3430
02:00:35,830 --> 02:00:34,639
here and there and and you know i got to

3431
02:00:38,550 --> 02:00:35,840
work with some of my

3432
02:00:41,189 --> 02:00:38,560
you know craziest comedy idols and film

3433
02:00:45,109 --> 02:00:41,199
and film actors like just insane

3434
02:00:45,830 --> 02:00:45,119
um but i've never gotten that lucky

3435
02:00:48,709 --> 02:00:45,840
break that

3436
02:00:50,709 --> 02:00:48,719
that that foot in the door that is like

3437
02:00:53,430 --> 02:00:50,719
oh my god you know like i could do this

3438
02:00:56,470 --> 02:00:53,440
for a living now this is my career

3439
02:00:58,629 --> 02:00:56,480
and uh yeah dude and and and

3440
02:01:00,149 --> 02:00:58,639
i've realized here in two weeks three

3441
02:01:02,229 --> 02:01:00,159
weeks that

3442
02:01:04,629 --> 02:01:02,239
all of that failure all of that struggle

3443
02:01:07,589 --> 02:01:04,639
all of that frustration

3444
02:01:09,750 --> 02:01:07,599
has opened the door for me to do this

3445
02:01:12,390 --> 02:01:09,760
and communicate this phenomena

3446
02:01:13,990 --> 02:01:12,400
to a group of people that need

3447
02:01:16,629 --> 02:01:14,000
explanation on it

3448
02:01:18,149 --> 02:01:16,639
they need somebody that they could watch

3449
02:01:20,149 --> 02:01:18,159
that they could laugh with

3450
02:01:21,910 --> 02:01:20,159
that they could get you know have the

3451
02:01:23,669 --> 02:01:21,920
conversation that we just had about a

3452
02:01:26,550 --> 02:01:23,679
cigarette and the philosophy and what

3453
02:01:27,750 --> 02:01:26,560
it represents and an analogy that i it

3454
02:01:30,790 --> 02:01:27,760
blew my mind

3455
02:01:32,870 --> 02:01:30,800
yeah when i heard it we can get there

3456
02:01:34,790 --> 02:01:32,880
we can have the conversations but we got

3457
02:01:37,510 --> 02:01:34,800
to start on firm

3458
02:01:38,870 --> 02:01:37,520
firm firm reality and ground and we've

3459
02:01:40,229 --> 02:01:38,880
always got to come back to that

3460
02:01:43,270 --> 02:01:40,239
foundation

3461
02:01:45,109 --> 02:01:43,280
you know so so like dude that's what i

3462
02:01:46,629 --> 02:01:45,119
love about this topic because i think it

3463
02:01:48,950 --> 02:01:46,639
inspires like this

3464
02:01:51,109 --> 02:01:48,960
these are conversations that 20 year old

3465
02:01:52,870 --> 02:01:51,119
kids at mit should be having

3466
02:01:55,189 --> 02:01:52,880
you know and i think when the government

3467
02:01:56,550 --> 02:01:55,199
says look here's the result we're not

3468
02:01:58,229 --> 02:01:56,560
going to give you the process we're

3469
02:01:59,910 --> 02:01:58,239
going to let society figure out the

3470
02:02:01,189 --> 02:01:59,920
process like it took us 60 years to

3471
02:02:03,109 --> 02:02:01,199
figure out the process

3472
02:02:05,910 --> 02:02:03,119
and maybe they'll do it in 15 or 20

3473
02:02:06,870 --> 02:02:05,920
years and and that process will be their

3474
02:02:08,390 --> 02:02:06,880
awakening

3475
02:02:10,070 --> 02:02:08,400
you know and this is how we're going to

3476
02:02:12,709 --> 02:02:10,080
do it because we can't just

3477
02:02:14,310 --> 02:02:12,719
open the doors and say here you go it's

3478
02:02:16,390 --> 02:02:14,320
just it there's going to be so much

3479
02:02:18,470 --> 02:02:16,400
confusion there's going to be so much

3480
02:02:19,830 --> 02:02:18,480
misinformation and lies i like that

3481
02:02:22,229 --> 02:02:19,840
they're dripping it out because

3482
02:02:23,589 --> 02:02:22,239
people like us can decipher it look at

3483
02:02:25,589 --> 02:02:23,599
it and go you know what i

3484
02:02:28,310 --> 02:02:25,599
would be careful with this hold your

3485
02:02:29,750 --> 02:02:28,320
horses manage your expectations

3486
02:02:31,510 --> 02:02:29,760
um just like i've been saying with the

3487
02:02:31,990 --> 02:02:31,520
pyramid videos like the the beautiful

3488
02:02:34,229 --> 02:02:32,000
thing about

3489
02:02:35,189 --> 02:02:34,239
those pyramid videos my mother sent them

3490
02:02:37,510 --> 02:02:35,199
to me who

3491
02:02:38,550 --> 02:02:37,520
has nothing to do with this topic that's

3492
02:02:41,589 --> 02:02:38,560
a that's a

3493
02:02:43,109 --> 02:02:41,599
great wonderful thing to happen but my

3494
02:02:46,870 --> 02:02:43,119
response to mom was

3495
02:02:48,310 --> 02:02:46,880
hey mom this is cool news i have no idea

3496
02:02:51,350 --> 02:02:48,320
what it is but i would just say

3497
02:02:52,870 --> 02:02:51,360
let's wait and see and and and and find

3498
02:02:54,149 --> 02:02:52,880
out what they really are because we just

3499
02:02:56,470 --> 02:02:54,159
don't have enough data yet

3500
02:02:58,790 --> 02:02:56,480
and that's the facts so that's what

3501
02:03:01,510 --> 02:02:58,800
we're here for that's what we have to do

3502
02:03:02,790 --> 02:03:01,520
as a community and i know that sucks

3503
02:03:04,870 --> 02:03:02,800
like it's almost like

3504
02:03:06,390 --> 02:03:04,880
you know having to train the new guy on

3505
02:03:07,990 --> 02:03:06,400
the job and it's like

3506
02:03:09,430 --> 02:03:08,000
jesus all right dude you don't know how

3507
02:03:11,589 --> 02:03:09,440
to do this okay come here

3508
02:03:13,350 --> 02:03:11,599
this is how you log into work this is

3509
02:03:14,950 --> 02:03:13,360
how you do this you know what i'm saying

3510
02:03:17,350 --> 02:03:14,960
and it's just like

3511
02:03:18,550 --> 02:03:17,360
put your pants on it sucks but you don't

3512
02:03:19,270 --> 02:03:18,560
what are you doing showing up with no

3513
02:03:24,950 --> 02:03:19,280
pants on

3514
02:03:26,229 --> 02:03:24,960
you know this is why they need us they

3515
02:03:28,470 --> 02:03:26,239
need us this is why i'm not

3516
02:03:30,070 --> 02:03:28,480
worried about like what we're going to

3517
02:03:31,589 --> 02:03:30,080
talk about or what the topic's going to

3518
02:03:33,270 --> 02:03:31,599
be or you know because i know especially

3519
02:03:34,470 --> 02:03:33,280
when i got to michael mataloni as my

3520
02:03:35,910 --> 02:03:34,480
co-host like

3521
02:03:37,669 --> 02:03:35,920
the conversation is going to be

3522
02:03:38,470 --> 02:03:37,679
intellectual it's going to be realistic

3523
02:03:42,070 --> 02:03:38,480
it's going to be

3524
02:03:43,750 --> 02:03:42,080
soaked in gra and grounded in reality

3525
02:03:45,510 --> 02:03:43,760
and then and then that gives us

3526
02:03:46,229 --> 02:03:45,520
permission to go anywhere else we want

3527
02:03:48,390 --> 02:03:46,239
to go

3528
02:03:49,990 --> 02:03:48,400
yeah i was gonna say i feel like michael

3529
02:03:50,950 --> 02:03:50,000
could beat me in a game of chess in two

3530
02:03:53,830 --> 02:03:50,960
moves

3531
02:03:55,830 --> 02:03:53,840
maybe maybe i don't know i i don't think

3532
02:03:56,229 --> 02:03:55,840
of him as that kind of visceral thinker

3533
02:04:03,669 --> 02:03:56,239
he's

3534
02:04:05,350 --> 02:04:03,679
i really like him because he he can

3535
02:04:06,069 --> 02:04:05,360
really listen to information and

3536
02:04:08,229 --> 02:04:06,079
decipher

3537
02:04:10,390 --> 02:04:08,239
very quickly and sometimes i'll miss

3538
02:04:12,790 --> 02:04:10,400
things because i'm producing the show

3539
02:04:14,310 --> 02:04:12,800
and he'll catch it and then and then you

3540
02:04:16,069 --> 02:04:14,320
know talk about it and then that gives

3541
02:04:17,350 --> 02:04:16,079
me an opening to be like oh this is what

3542
02:04:20,709 --> 02:04:17,360
they're talking about

3543
02:04:23,750 --> 02:04:20,719
um so like dude we've we have

3544
02:04:24,149 --> 02:04:23,760
figured out a way and the reason why i'm

3545
02:04:26,550 --> 02:04:24,159
so

3546
02:04:28,390 --> 02:04:26,560
goddamn excited about my channel is we

3547
02:04:31,750 --> 02:04:28,400
figured out a way

3548
02:04:35,750 --> 02:04:31,760
to talk about this in a

3549
02:04:37,830 --> 02:04:35,760
fun entertaining relatable way

3550
02:04:39,270 --> 02:04:37,840
that anyone could turn on and watch

3551
02:04:48,229 --> 02:04:39,280
you're going to see

3552
02:04:49,750 --> 02:04:48,239
all of it dude we're going to talk to

3553
02:04:51,430 --> 02:04:49,760
all of them actors

3554
02:04:53,350 --> 02:04:51,440
we're going to talk to everybody you

3555
02:04:55,350 --> 02:04:53,360
know like and and we want to bring in as

3556
02:04:56,470 --> 02:04:55,360
many people into this conversation as

3557
02:04:59,669 --> 02:04:56,480
possible

3558
02:05:01,990 --> 02:04:59,679
and because it's

3559
02:05:03,669 --> 02:05:02,000
this conversation is going to be had

3560
02:05:05,990 --> 02:05:03,679
it's just are we going to position

3561
02:05:09,589 --> 02:05:06,000
ourselves and our shows

3562
02:05:11,109 --> 02:05:09,599
to when this rush of of curiosity comes

3563
02:05:12,870 --> 02:05:11,119
we're going to have a library of stuff

3564
02:05:13,510 --> 02:05:12,880
for them to look at and also we're going

3565
02:05:15,910 --> 02:05:13,520
to be

3566
02:05:17,350 --> 02:05:15,920
the people they come to to to like oh my

3567
02:05:19,270 --> 02:05:17,360
god this happened today i wonder what

3568
02:05:19,669 --> 02:05:19,280
lou's opinion or ben opinion is on it

3569
02:05:26,790 --> 02:05:19,679
like

3570
02:05:28,310 --> 02:05:26,800
people are going to want updates on on

3571
02:05:29,910 --> 02:05:28,320
uap

3572
02:05:31,750 --> 02:05:29,920
information this is going to be

3573
02:05:34,310 --> 02:05:31,760
something like you know

3574
02:05:36,709 --> 02:05:34,320
lifestyle art it's gonna be a section in

3575
02:05:40,550 --> 02:05:36,719
the newspaper like this is

3576
02:05:43,750 --> 02:05:40,560
coming and and i think again like

3577
02:05:45,589 --> 02:05:43,760
we are we are in the perfect position to

3578
02:05:47,910 --> 02:05:45,599
not only

3579
02:05:48,709 --> 02:05:47,920
talk about it and educate people but

3580
02:05:50,950 --> 02:05:48,719
make this like

3581
02:05:51,910 --> 02:05:50,960
a career that's why i'm trying to bring

3582
02:05:55,109 --> 02:05:51,920
as many

3583
02:05:56,069 --> 02:05:55,119
people that i love and i listen to into

3584
02:05:58,470 --> 02:05:56,079
my little

3585
02:05:59,350 --> 02:05:58,480
chat verse you know where i invite all

3586
02:06:00,709 --> 02:05:59,360
my buddies

3587
02:06:02,790 --> 02:06:00,719
you know hey i'm doing a show today

3588
02:06:04,470 --> 02:06:02,800
who's coming who's in you know if you

3589
02:06:05,990 --> 02:06:04,480
got a show and you need some people on

3590
02:06:07,750 --> 02:06:06,000
the show you could post it in the chat

3591
02:06:09,350 --> 02:06:07,760
it's like who's in who's going

3592
02:06:10,790 --> 02:06:09,360
you know because we need to lift each

3593
02:06:12,790 --> 02:06:10,800
other man like this

3594
02:06:14,950 --> 02:06:12,800
we're not going to get anywhere for like

3595
02:06:16,950 --> 02:06:14,960
well i don't like what he's doing

3596
02:06:18,470 --> 02:06:16,960
like i love what he's doing can he come

3597
02:06:19,830 --> 02:06:18,480
on my show and talk about it can i go on

3598
02:06:22,790 --> 02:06:19,840
his show and talk about it

3599
02:06:24,229 --> 02:06:22,800
like i i i want to make this as

3600
02:06:27,750 --> 02:06:24,239
all-inclusive

3601
02:06:30,950 --> 02:06:27,760
and for everybody to to

3602
02:06:34,149 --> 02:06:30,960
access as easily as possible because

3603
02:06:36,709 --> 02:06:34,159
it's this information demands it

3604
02:06:38,069 --> 02:06:36,719
totally i totally agree we gotta stop

3605
02:06:40,229 --> 02:06:38,079
fighting against each other

3606
02:06:41,189 --> 02:06:40,239
it's totally okay to have differing

3607
02:06:43,750 --> 02:06:41,199
opinions

3608
02:06:45,189 --> 02:06:43,760
and ways to go about it and how we think

3609
02:06:48,390 --> 02:06:45,199
we can accomplish the goal

3610
02:06:50,870 --> 02:06:48,400
but like bitching and arguing and like

3611
02:06:51,910 --> 02:06:50,880
hating each other doesn't do service to

3612
02:06:54,550 --> 02:06:51,920
anybody

3613
02:06:55,430 --> 02:06:54,560
especially in this field where that's

3614
02:06:57,589 --> 02:06:55,440
been a very

3615
02:06:59,430 --> 02:06:57,599
prominent thing for such a long time

3616
02:07:01,270 --> 02:06:59,440
it's nice because i feel like there's a

3617
02:07:03,589 --> 02:07:01,280
new generation coming in

3618
02:07:05,669 --> 02:07:03,599
that's really going to set the standard

3619
02:07:06,790 --> 02:07:05,679
and set the bar a little bit higher when

3620
02:07:09,669 --> 02:07:06,800
it comes to the

3621
02:07:10,629 --> 02:07:09,679
like ethical and the respect aspect of a

3622
02:07:11,830 --> 02:07:10,639
lot of this stuff

3623
02:07:13,910 --> 02:07:11,840
i think we're going to be a lot more

3624
02:07:15,589 --> 02:07:13,920
willing to listen and and

3625
02:07:17,350 --> 02:07:15,599
have these types of conversations

3626
02:07:18,149 --> 02:07:17,360
without just immediately blowing each

3627
02:07:19,910 --> 02:07:18,159
other off

3628
02:07:21,430 --> 02:07:19,920
you know but that's totally fine too

3629
02:07:23,589 --> 02:07:21,440
because the older generation

3630
02:07:26,310 --> 02:07:23,599
really did put in a lot of the legwork

3631
02:07:28,950 --> 02:07:26,320
and had to deal with the [\h__\h] and

3632
02:07:29,350 --> 02:07:28,960
some people got murdered some people got

3633
02:07:30,950 --> 02:07:29,360
you know

3634
02:07:33,109 --> 02:07:30,960
i mean they had to deal with a lot of

3635
02:07:34,310 --> 02:07:33,119
rough stuff so i completely understand

3636
02:07:37,109 --> 02:07:34,320
where they're coming from

3637
02:07:38,950 --> 02:07:37,119
and they open the door for us to be able

3638
02:07:42,790 --> 02:07:38,960
to have these conversations

3639
02:07:45,910 --> 02:07:42,800
now and i i appreciate that so much

3640
02:07:47,750 --> 02:07:45,920
dude joe that's such a good man like you

3641
02:07:49,510 --> 02:07:47,760
just said it man like they

3642
02:07:50,870 --> 02:07:49,520
let's take a moment to to think about

3643
02:07:53,750 --> 02:07:50,880
that because the people

3644
02:07:54,069 --> 02:07:53,760
that have been doing this for years man

3645
02:07:55,750 --> 02:07:54,079
they

3646
02:07:57,510 --> 02:07:55,760
are that's that first foundation that

3647
02:07:59,669 --> 02:07:57,520
we're talking about that's right that's

3648
02:08:01,270 --> 02:07:59,679
that's why we have jazz shaw on the show

3649
02:08:02,950 --> 02:08:01,280
dude because he's he's part of that

3650
02:08:05,109 --> 02:08:02,960
generation

3651
02:08:06,950 --> 02:08:05,119
radio has taught us so much [\h__\h] because

3652
02:08:08,229 --> 02:08:06,960
he's been through it dude he's seen

3653
02:08:08,790 --> 02:08:08,239
everything man he's been doing this

3654
02:08:10,709 --> 02:08:08,800
forever

3655
02:08:12,470 --> 02:08:10,719
yeah no we're standing on the shoulders

3656
02:08:13,990 --> 02:08:12,480
of giants man oh and

3657
02:08:16,550 --> 02:08:14,000
here's the thing these giants that are

3658
02:08:18,149 --> 02:08:16,560
underneath us they're very disgruntled

3659
02:08:19,350 --> 02:08:18,159
they're very pissed off and they're like

3660
02:08:21,589 --> 02:08:19,360
looking up at us going

3661
02:08:23,990 --> 02:08:21,599
do you see anything yet and we're like

3662
02:08:25,669 --> 02:08:24,000
oh no yeah dude well yeah hang in there

3663
02:08:27,910 --> 02:08:25,679
we're almost there buddy but they're

3664
02:08:30,870 --> 02:08:27,920
only like like but people like jazz and

3665
02:08:31,189 --> 02:08:30,880
and dave scott want to be a part of this

3666
02:08:35,669 --> 02:08:31,199
yeah

3667
02:08:38,390 --> 02:08:35,679
they're getting energized by us

3668
02:08:39,430 --> 02:08:38,400
yeah and man they're like it is so

3669
02:08:40,790 --> 02:08:39,440
refreshing because

3670
02:08:42,790 --> 02:08:40,800
i know that there's a lot of hate i

3671
02:08:44,950 --> 02:08:42,800
think you said something about

3672
02:08:46,470 --> 02:08:44,960
ufo twitter earlier i think no it was

3673
02:08:48,149 --> 02:08:46,480
one of your lives i think you were on

3674
02:08:50,149 --> 02:08:48,159
with christina and how like

3675
02:08:52,229 --> 02:08:50,159
ufo twitter when i first got on twitter

3676
02:08:53,669 --> 02:08:52,239
it was so hateful and so spiteful that i

3677
02:08:56,470 --> 02:08:53,679
was just [\h__\h]

3678
02:08:57,510 --> 02:08:56,480
turned off by twitter all together but

3679
02:08:59,510 --> 02:08:57,520
now dude

3680
02:09:00,550 --> 02:08:59,520
it's it's it's so significantly

3681
02:09:04,149 --> 02:09:00,560
different uh

3682
02:09:06,550 --> 02:09:04,159
and i mean i i honestly

3683
02:09:07,189 --> 02:09:06,560
i'll say it i think after the big phone

3684
02:09:09,669 --> 02:09:07,199
home man

3685
02:09:10,470 --> 02:09:09,679
like [\h__\h] has changed well that was the

3686
02:09:11,990 --> 02:09:10,480
whole point

3687
02:09:13,510 --> 02:09:12,000
you know is to come together on some

3688
02:09:15,430 --> 02:09:13,520
common ground really what i

3689
02:09:17,189 --> 02:09:15,440
like i i don't know if you guys saw this

3690
02:09:19,270 --> 02:09:17,199
video that this guy alpha check put out

3691
02:09:21,510 --> 02:09:19,280
this um this simulation video of the

3692
02:09:23,270 --> 02:09:21,520
nimitz and radar systems

3693
02:09:24,709 --> 02:09:23,280
um and it's an awesome video and

3694
02:09:26,709 --> 02:09:24,719
everybody's asking mick what do you

3695
02:09:27,669 --> 02:09:26,719
think about this mick west yo mick west

3696
02:09:29,430 --> 02:09:27,679
check this out

3697
02:09:31,270 --> 02:09:29,440
and mick gives his explanation of course

3698
02:09:32,790 --> 02:09:31,280
it's very cheeky very dry and

3699
02:09:34,310 --> 02:09:32,800
people get pissed off at it so i was

3700
02:09:35,910 --> 02:09:34,320
like okay

3701
02:09:38,790 --> 02:09:35,920
i can see this is going to turn into a

3702
02:09:40,310 --> 02:09:38,800
huge thing in in a few hours

3703
02:09:42,069 --> 02:09:40,320
so what i did is i reached out to the

3704
02:09:43,430 --> 02:09:42,079
guy who made the video and then i

3705
02:09:44,550 --> 02:09:43,440
reached out to mick west i was like hey

3706
02:09:47,270 --> 02:09:44,560
would you guys be interested in talking

3707
02:09:49,270 --> 02:09:47,280
to each other uh and see and see if

3708
02:09:51,189 --> 02:09:49,280
where we where where the differences are

3709
02:09:53,030 --> 02:09:51,199
like where we disagree

3710
02:09:54,790 --> 02:09:53,040
mick always agrees mick's always down to

3711
02:09:56,709 --> 02:09:54,800
talk to anybody anytime

3712
02:09:58,229 --> 02:09:56,719
and this guy was like yeah i'll do that

3713
02:09:59,830 --> 02:09:58,239
so now we're gonna have a conversation

3714
02:10:01,830 --> 02:09:59,840
between these two guys instead of a

3715
02:10:03,910 --> 02:10:01,840
twitter argument

3716
02:10:04,870 --> 02:10:03,920
you know and that to me is the most

3717
02:10:09,270 --> 02:10:04,880
important

3718
02:10:12,229 --> 02:10:09,280
thing to do in this community like i

3719
02:10:14,310 --> 02:10:12,239
a lot of my behind the scenes drama for

3720
02:10:15,750 --> 02:10:14,320
the big phone home was getting people

3721
02:10:17,589 --> 02:10:15,760
just to appear

3722
02:10:19,109 --> 02:10:17,599
next not even so much in the same

3723
02:10:21,109 --> 02:10:19,119
squares but just

3724
02:10:22,470 --> 02:10:21,119
even following up each other you know

3725
02:10:25,189 --> 02:10:22,480
because they're like i don't like that

3726
02:10:26,790 --> 02:10:25,199
person that person's a scumbag

3727
02:10:28,790 --> 02:10:26,800
it was going back and forth between all

3728
02:10:30,310 --> 02:10:28,800
these people and that was the hardest

3729
02:10:31,750 --> 02:10:30,320
thing i had to do was just to calm

3730
02:10:32,629 --> 02:10:31,760
people and say hey look this is not a

3731
02:10:34,950 --> 02:10:32,639
heat fest

3732
02:10:36,709 --> 02:10:34,960
we're not here to bash anybody like in

3733
02:10:37,990 --> 02:10:36,719
the second i hear it i'll drop that

3734
02:10:38,470 --> 02:10:38,000
person like they're not going to be on

3735
02:10:41,109 --> 02:10:38,480
the show

3736
02:10:42,790 --> 02:10:41,119
period full stop and and i had to build

3737
02:10:44,149 --> 02:10:42,800
a lot of trust with these folks like

3738
02:10:44,790 --> 02:10:44,159
because they're like who the hell are

3739
02:10:51,669 --> 02:10:44,800
you

3740
02:10:53,830 --> 02:10:51,679
what um and um

3741
02:10:55,589 --> 02:10:53,840
and i think you're right i think ufo

3742
02:10:59,189 --> 02:10:55,599
twitter's uh

3743
02:10:59,750 --> 02:10:59,199
it's still got its its its reactiveness

3744
02:11:02,709 --> 02:10:59,760
when it's

3745
02:11:03,030 --> 02:11:02,719
when the news is upsetting for them um

3746
02:11:05,350 --> 02:11:03,040
but

3747
02:11:06,950 --> 02:11:05,360
i don't see a lot of people yelling and

3748
02:11:08,390 --> 02:11:06,960
fighting at each other as much as they

3749
02:11:10,310 --> 02:11:08,400
were like i mean i was having a

3750
02:11:12,069 --> 02:11:10,320
disagreement with this guy

3751
02:11:13,830 --> 02:11:12,079
i can't remember who it was but he was

3752
02:11:16,069 --> 02:11:13,840
yelling at the scu he was

3753
02:11:17,270 --> 02:11:16,079
so angry at the scu the scientific

3754
02:11:19,430 --> 02:11:17,280
coalition for uap

3755
02:11:21,350 --> 02:11:19,440
studies which is a conglomeration of a

3756
02:11:23,990 --> 02:11:21,360
bunch of phds and scientists

3757
02:11:24,709 --> 02:11:24,000
who are are publicly going we'll look at

3758
02:11:27,750 --> 02:11:24,719
it

3759
02:11:30,069 --> 02:11:27,760
which is what exactly what we want right

3760
02:11:31,030 --> 02:11:30,079
but so they released this names this

3761
02:11:34,550 --> 02:11:31,040
list of names

3762
02:11:37,669 --> 02:11:34,560
and it was a a a letter to congress

3763
02:11:39,350 --> 02:11:37,679
and these names were blacked out and

3764
02:11:41,669 --> 02:11:39,360
this guy's argument was

3765
02:11:44,149 --> 02:11:41,679
why can't we see the names how can you

3766
02:11:46,149 --> 02:11:44,159
expect anybody to trust the scu

3767
02:11:47,750 --> 02:11:46,159
if we can't see the names and i'm like

3768
02:11:49,589 --> 02:11:47,760
dude the names become

3769
02:11:51,109 --> 02:11:49,599
public when it when they open it on the

3770
02:11:53,510 --> 02:11:51,119
congress floor like

3771
02:11:54,470 --> 02:11:53,520
so that's the first thing the second

3772
02:11:57,030 --> 02:11:54,480
thing is

3773
02:11:59,270 --> 02:11:57,040
like why are you going to get a if this

3774
02:12:02,069 --> 02:11:59,280
is the place you start at

3775
02:12:02,550 --> 02:12:02,079
when the scu maybe makes a mistake you

3776
02:12:04,629 --> 02:12:02,560
know like

3777
02:12:06,790 --> 02:12:04,639
they haven't even explained why or maybe

3778
02:12:10,229 --> 02:12:06,800
they've got a good explanation or reason

3779
02:12:12,870 --> 02:12:10,239
let's maybe just let them respond before

3780
02:12:16,470 --> 02:12:12,880
you jump all up in their [\h__\h] like this

3781
02:12:18,390 --> 02:12:16,480
um and uh and then you know he would

3782
02:12:19,990 --> 02:12:18,400
count like look dude i disagree

3783
02:12:21,750 --> 02:12:20,000
you want to come on my show and talk

3784
02:12:23,910 --> 02:12:21,760
about it let's do it

3785
02:12:24,790 --> 02:12:23,920
you know because him and alejandro rojas

3786
02:12:27,030 --> 02:12:24,800
were having this

3787
02:12:28,149 --> 02:12:27,040
twitter beef and i'm like alejandro

3788
02:12:29,669 --> 02:12:28,159
would you like to come on the show and

3789
02:12:31,589 --> 02:12:29,679
talk about it with this guy you know and

3790
02:12:32,229 --> 02:12:31,599
the guy declined because he knows he's

3791
02:12:33,830 --> 02:12:32,239
wrong

3792
02:12:35,350 --> 02:12:33,840
i'm like dude you could come in and talk

3793
02:12:37,350 --> 02:12:35,360
about your your your

3794
02:12:39,109 --> 02:12:37,360
the the blog you just posted the article

3795
02:12:41,589 --> 02:12:39,119
you just wrote about the scu

3796
02:12:42,149 --> 02:12:41,599
he's like nah i'm gonna let it die i'm

3797
02:12:47,270 --> 02:12:42,159
like

3798
02:12:48,629 --> 02:12:47,280
out to come to the table and work out

3799
02:12:50,390 --> 02:12:48,639
their [\h__\h]

3800
02:12:51,750 --> 02:12:50,400
if they're the kind of person who wants

3801
02:12:53,910 --> 02:12:51,760
to dig in their heels

3802
02:12:55,990 --> 02:12:53,920
and stick to their position they'll

3803
02:12:57,510 --> 02:12:56,000
never agree to come on your show

3804
02:12:59,510 --> 02:12:57,520
ever because they know that you're going

3805
02:13:04,709 --> 02:12:59,520
to articulate something in a way where

3806
02:13:11,270 --> 02:13:08,310
joe joe you're muted joe you're muted

3807
02:13:13,430 --> 02:13:11,280
damn i've been saying smart [\h__\h] this

3808
02:13:16,950 --> 02:13:13,440
whole time

3809
02:13:18,629 --> 02:13:16,960
i haven't heard from you i had that

3810
02:13:21,350 --> 02:13:18,639
cough bro and i [\h__\h]

3811
02:13:23,750 --> 02:13:21,360
muted my stomach that's why we're not in

3812
02:13:26,950 --> 02:13:23,760
the studio together today

3813
02:13:28,790 --> 02:13:26,960
yeah dude yeah but uh dude i totally

3814
02:13:30,550 --> 02:13:28,800
agree man you gotta let those people lie

3815
02:13:32,470 --> 02:13:30,560
you know you got to let the people that

3816
02:13:35,109 --> 02:13:32,480
are just going to dig in

3817
02:13:36,550 --> 02:13:35,119
you got to let them lie you know and i

3818
02:13:38,709 --> 02:13:36,560
don't have time dude we got to move

3819
02:13:40,390 --> 02:13:38,719
on we got so much important [\h__\h] to do

3820
02:13:42,310 --> 02:13:40,400
like we have to i've got senators to

3821
02:13:45,669 --> 02:13:42,320
call you want to yell at the scu

3822
02:13:46,550 --> 02:13:45,679
all right like yeah okay i mean go for

3823
02:13:47,910 --> 02:13:46,560
it it's like this

3824
02:13:49,669 --> 02:13:47,920
it was a conversation i was having with

3825
02:13:53,109 --> 02:13:49,679
erica luke's like

3826
02:13:55,750 --> 02:13:53,119
you know uh this element of racism and

3827
02:13:56,550 --> 02:13:55,760
and sort of this this uh this white

3828
02:13:59,189 --> 02:13:56,560
nationalist

3829
02:14:00,790 --> 02:13:59,199
like movement within the ufo community

3830
02:14:02,709 --> 02:14:00,800
like i hate to break this to you

3831
02:14:04,790 --> 02:14:02,719
a lot of people in the ufo community are

3832
02:14:05,350 --> 02:14:04,800
conspiracy theorists white nationalists

3833
02:14:08,470 --> 02:14:05,360
they just

3834
02:14:11,030 --> 02:14:08,480
are like it's that's a a big

3835
02:14:12,229 --> 02:14:11,040
element of q anon lives within this

3836
02:14:14,950 --> 02:14:12,239
community

3837
02:14:16,069 --> 02:14:14,960
i mean it's it's it's it's the perfect

3838
02:14:17,510 --> 02:14:16,079
place for them to live

3839
02:14:19,430 --> 02:14:17,520
you know because it's ripe with

3840
02:14:22,629 --> 02:14:19,440
conspiracy this this topic

3841
02:14:24,310 --> 02:14:22,639
right um but my point to her was like

3842
02:14:25,510 --> 02:14:24,320
are you really gonna waste your energy

3843
02:14:27,669 --> 02:14:25,520
and time

3844
02:14:30,790 --> 02:14:27,679
on these q anon guys that have

3845
02:14:33,910 --> 02:14:30,800
infiltrated the ufo community like

3846
02:14:36,390 --> 02:14:33,920
if you expose them is anyone gonna care

3847
02:14:36,950 --> 02:14:36,400
i don't think so like in the short of

3848
02:14:39,910 --> 02:14:36,960
them

3849
02:14:41,109 --> 02:14:39,920
in a klu klux klan outfit you know

3850
02:14:43,830 --> 02:14:41,119
yelling racial

3851
02:14:45,109 --> 02:14:43,840
epitaphs into a microphone and you got

3852
02:14:47,350 --> 02:14:45,119
clear video

3853
02:14:48,149 --> 02:14:47,360
nobody's gonna give a [\h__\h] and here's

3854
02:14:52,390 --> 02:14:48,159
the thing about

3855
02:14:55,510 --> 02:14:52,400
racists and it's it's it's a fact

3856
02:14:58,950 --> 02:14:55,520
if somebody in their heart

3857
02:15:02,069 --> 02:14:58,960
is a real real racist

3858
02:15:05,750 --> 02:15:02,079
like genuine to the bone

3859
02:15:09,510 --> 02:15:05,760
supremacist that's and they're hiding it

3860
02:15:09,910 --> 02:15:09,520
which a lot of them do at some point in

3861
02:15:13,589 --> 02:15:09,920
their

3862
02:15:15,109 --> 02:15:13,599
life it's gonna slip and it's gonna slip

3863
02:15:16,790 --> 02:15:15,119
at the worst time

3864
02:15:18,390 --> 02:15:16,800
yeah and it's gonna slip in a moment

3865
02:15:22,470 --> 02:15:18,400
that maybe even

3866
02:15:26,149 --> 02:15:22,480
ruins their life um

3867
02:15:28,149 --> 02:15:26,159
it's something i i

3868
02:15:29,189 --> 02:15:28,159
i try to tell people sometimes that

3869
02:15:33,189 --> 02:15:29,199
sometimes

3870
02:15:33,669 --> 02:15:33,199
you gotta hug a racist as crazy as that

3871
02:15:35,990 --> 02:15:33,679
sounds

3872
02:15:37,350 --> 02:15:36,000
what does it mean um that means that

3873
02:15:40,069 --> 02:15:37,360
means that sometimes

3874
02:15:41,189 --> 02:15:40,079
you look man if you're a racist hardcore

3875
02:15:44,629 --> 02:15:41,199
to your bone

3876
02:15:47,109 --> 02:15:44,639
your childhood probably sucked

3877
02:15:49,189 --> 02:15:47,119
yeah it probably didn't have any normal

3878
02:15:51,270 --> 02:15:49,199
birthday parties or friends or

3879
02:15:52,390 --> 02:15:51,280
interactions like you were raised in

3880
02:15:54,390 --> 02:15:52,400
this bubble

3881
02:15:57,669 --> 02:15:54,400
i feel like that's a nurture thing

3882
02:16:00,709 --> 02:15:57,679
rather than nature i think that's

3883
02:16:01,750 --> 02:16:00,719
like yeah racist it's like a pit bull

3884
02:16:04,550 --> 02:16:01,760
that's angry

3885
02:16:05,830 --> 02:16:04,560
you know not violent animals they're

3886
02:16:09,350 --> 02:16:05,840
they're raised that way

3887
02:16:11,430 --> 02:16:09,360
yeah so you know there's

3888
02:16:14,390 --> 02:16:11,440
hugging a racist is a really good first

3889
02:16:16,310 --> 02:16:14,400
step into solving a lot of these issues

3890
02:16:18,470 --> 02:16:16,320
because if you throw a rock at a racist

3891
02:16:18,790 --> 02:16:18,480
or you punch a racist i can guarantee

3892
02:16:24,310 --> 02:16:18,800
you

3893
02:16:26,069 --> 02:16:24,320
hole that they're in

3894
02:16:27,750 --> 02:16:26,079
yeah you know what i'm saying you're not

3895
02:16:29,669 --> 02:16:27,760
doing them any favors

3896
02:16:30,790 --> 02:16:29,679
you're like confirming confirming their

3897
02:16:33,190 --> 02:16:30,800
beliefs in a way

3898
02:16:35,750 --> 02:16:33,200
yeah and that's hard to do because

3899
02:16:37,429 --> 02:16:35,760
racism is disgusting it's abhorrent

3900
02:16:39,509 --> 02:16:37,439
like i mean i can't believe we even live

3901
02:16:41,750 --> 02:16:39,519
in a society where we have to

3902
02:16:42,709 --> 02:16:41,760
hug one of you like really you're gonna

3903
02:16:46,469 --> 02:16:42,719
put this on me

3904
02:16:46,870 --> 02:16:46,479
but okay you know like it works it works

3905
02:16:48,230 --> 02:16:46,880
man

3906
02:16:50,870 --> 02:16:48,240
and then we just need to have a little

3907
02:16:53,509 --> 02:16:50,880
more empathy even for racists

3908
02:16:54,150 --> 02:16:53,519
yeah as crazy as that sounds you gotta

3909
02:16:56,790 --> 02:16:54,160
show

3910
02:16:57,429 --> 02:16:56,800
everybody some sort of compassion you

3911
02:17:00,549 --> 02:16:57,439
have to

3912
02:17:04,549 --> 02:17:00,559
end and love even if

3913
02:17:08,790 --> 02:17:06,070
i guess there's a couple of situations

3914
02:17:10,309 --> 02:17:08,800
where look it's not to say

3915
02:17:12,709 --> 02:17:10,319
there's a great there's a great story of

3916
02:17:13,830 --> 02:17:12,719
a football player a university

3917
02:17:15,669 --> 02:17:13,840
well there's a great story of a

3918
02:17:17,030 --> 02:17:15,679
university of miami football player who

3919
02:17:18,469 --> 02:17:17,040
got who was like

3920
02:17:20,709 --> 02:17:18,479
i can't remember his name but he was

3921
02:17:23,990 --> 02:17:20,719
like part of like the ray lewis

3922
02:17:26,309 --> 02:17:24,000
big time university of miami like

3923
02:17:28,389 --> 02:17:26,319
like you know willis mcgahey class um

3924
02:17:30,950 --> 02:17:28,399
yeah and he was shot and killed in the

3925
02:17:35,270 --> 02:17:30,960
street by this guy

3926
02:17:38,230 --> 02:17:35,280
um his father and mother had every

3927
02:17:39,509 --> 02:17:38,240
reason in the world to want this person

3928
02:17:42,549 --> 02:17:39,519
dead

3929
02:17:46,070 --> 02:17:42,559
um to face justice

3930
02:17:49,990 --> 02:17:46,080
all of those things and

3931
02:17:53,830 --> 02:17:50,000
uh his father at the end of or at the

3932
02:17:56,549 --> 02:17:53,840
the reading of the verdict forgave him

3933
02:17:59,030 --> 02:17:56,559
wow yeah he's like just because i

3934
02:18:01,270 --> 02:17:59,040
forgive you doesn't mean i'm

3935
02:18:03,270 --> 02:18:01,280
i don't think you should serve the time

3936
02:18:04,870 --> 02:18:03,280
like you need to serve the time

3937
02:18:06,870 --> 02:18:04,880
and hopefully in that serving of the

3938
02:18:08,709 --> 02:18:06,880
time maybe you realize

3939
02:18:10,309 --> 02:18:08,719
what you've done but i know i have to

3940
02:18:11,669 --> 02:18:10,319
forgive you because i know the things

3941
02:18:14,629 --> 02:18:11,679
that have happened in your life

3942
02:18:16,309 --> 02:18:14,639
led you to this this really bad decision

3943
02:18:18,549 --> 02:18:16,319
and it just happened to be that that bad

3944
02:18:22,389 --> 02:18:18,559
decision killed my son

3945
02:18:25,750 --> 02:18:22,399
um so if someone like that can forgive

3946
02:18:28,629 --> 02:18:25,760
yeah it's hard it's hard

3947
02:18:29,509 --> 02:18:28,639
and some people can't do it and i get it

3948
02:18:32,309 --> 02:18:29,519
but

3949
02:18:34,230 --> 02:18:32,319
those are the kind of things i think not

3950
02:18:36,830 --> 02:18:34,240
only move this discussion forward but

3951
02:18:39,669 --> 02:18:36,840
like you know it's like you know look

3952
02:18:41,110 --> 02:18:39,679
sweetheart stop wasting your time on the

3953
02:18:44,309 --> 02:18:41,120
energy and the ugliness

3954
02:18:47,750 --> 02:18:44,319
of this topic and these very very

3955
02:18:51,509 --> 02:18:47,760
very rare people that only

3956
02:18:56,389 --> 02:18:54,549
share your art make more art you know

3957
02:18:58,790 --> 02:18:56,399
instead of investigating racist in the

3958
02:19:01,830 --> 02:18:58,800
ufo community why don't you investigate

3959
02:19:03,110 --> 02:19:01,840
some ufo cases you know like like that's

3960
02:19:05,669 --> 02:19:03,120
where i need you

3961
02:19:06,389 --> 02:19:05,679
yeah i need you there i love this i love

3962
02:19:08,549 --> 02:19:06,399
this idea

3963
02:19:10,709 --> 02:19:08,559
and i i think we're like headed towards

3964
02:19:13,589 --> 02:19:10,719
this this discussion just

3965
02:19:14,309 --> 02:19:13,599
amongst us three uh but i think as a

3966
02:19:18,389 --> 02:19:14,319
community

3967
02:19:19,509 --> 02:19:18,399
to the surface i think that's one of the

3968
02:19:22,709 --> 02:19:19,519
the end goals right

3969
02:19:24,070 --> 02:19:22,719
that's one of those uh uh eventually

3970
02:19:25,990 --> 02:19:24,080
we're gonna have this topic of

3971
02:19:29,030 --> 02:19:26,000
discussion where

3972
02:19:32,230 --> 02:19:29,040
i mean we're all

3973
02:19:37,110 --> 02:19:32,240
we're all the same entity we are

3974
02:19:40,870 --> 02:19:39,349
just variations of it and and and lu

3975
02:19:43,270 --> 02:19:40,880
elizondo says that

3976
02:19:45,270 --> 02:19:43,280
yeah like you know like that's his thing

3977
02:19:48,309 --> 02:19:45,280
he's like we got to realize that we're

3978
02:19:50,630 --> 02:19:48,319
one race and and if when

3979
02:19:52,230 --> 02:19:50,640
and if this entity presents itself how

3980
02:19:54,469 --> 02:19:52,240
in whatever form it does

3981
02:19:56,389 --> 02:19:54,479
that is going to be the first thing you

3982
02:19:58,710 --> 02:19:56,399
realize very quickly

3983
02:20:00,309 --> 02:19:58,720
i mean name name a and okay so i mean

3984
02:20:01,190 --> 02:20:00,319
i'm gonna go into like science fiction

3985
02:20:03,510 --> 02:20:01,200
here but like

3986
02:20:05,270 --> 02:20:03,520
name one episode where in star trek or

3987
02:20:06,469 --> 02:20:05,280
star wars they go to a planet and they

3988
02:20:08,389 --> 02:20:06,479
said oh

3989
02:20:10,630 --> 02:20:08,399
they're they don't say the name of the

3990
02:20:13,110 --> 02:20:10,640
planet and then add some kind of ing

3991
02:20:13,750 --> 02:20:13,120
s you know like the earthlings like

3992
02:20:21,110 --> 02:20:13,760
right

3993
02:20:22,389 --> 02:20:21,120
what 30 types of penguins but if you

3994
02:20:23,990 --> 02:20:22,399
look at

3995
02:20:24,950 --> 02:20:24,000
10 of those penguins that are all

3996
02:20:31,190 --> 02:20:24,960
different you're going to be like oh

3997
02:20:35,030 --> 02:20:32,790
no it makes sense dude i mean some of

3998
02:20:35,990 --> 02:20:35,040
them are [\h__\h] we we got a long way

3999
02:20:38,469 --> 02:20:36,000
to go

4000
02:20:40,389 --> 02:20:38,479
in society i mean we got we as humans

4001
02:20:42,150 --> 02:20:40,399
have a long way to go and it's

4002
02:20:43,910 --> 02:20:42,160
and i think it's very clear why nothing

4003
02:20:45,590 --> 02:20:43,920
has shown itself yet we're just we're

4004
02:20:46,710 --> 02:20:45,600
just not mature enough yet like as a

4005
02:20:48,469 --> 02:20:46,720
society like

4006
02:20:51,510 --> 02:20:48,479
you know we were just talking in the

4007
02:20:53,510 --> 02:20:51,520
singularity complex like

4008
02:20:56,550 --> 02:20:53,520
you know about capitalism and how

4009
02:20:58,630 --> 02:20:56,560
capitalism is the best

4010
02:21:00,389 --> 02:20:58,640
best thing that the human race has maybe

4011
02:21:01,750 --> 02:21:00,399
ever created but at the same time it's

4012
02:21:02,710 --> 02:21:01,760
also one of the worst things that it's

4013
02:21:04,550 --> 02:21:02,720
ever created

4014
02:21:07,510 --> 02:21:04,560
and we really need to look at the face

4015
02:21:09,590 --> 02:21:07,520
of capitalists and capitalism and say

4016
02:21:11,349 --> 02:21:09,600
when's enough enough like how many

4017
02:21:12,309 --> 02:21:11,359
billions of dollars do you need the

4018
02:21:14,230 --> 02:21:12,319
horde

4019
02:21:15,590 --> 02:21:14,240
trillions really you need a trillion

4020
02:21:17,750 --> 02:21:15,600
dollars

4021
02:21:19,990 --> 02:21:17,760
like you got to build a space no you

4022
02:21:22,790 --> 02:21:20,000
don't no you don't you don't need that

4023
02:21:23,830 --> 02:21:22,800
you got to build space force yeah no i'm

4024
02:21:25,349 --> 02:21:23,840
saying i'm saying

4025
02:21:27,349 --> 02:21:25,359
i'm not talking about the government i'm

4026
02:21:29,349 --> 02:21:27,359
talking about you know

4027
02:21:30,389 --> 02:21:29,359
trillionaires and billionaires like

4028
02:21:33,990 --> 02:21:30,399
bezos and

4029
02:21:37,270 --> 02:21:34,000
and and these are like dogecoin owners

4030
02:21:39,270 --> 02:21:37,280
i'm a dodge coin owner man i will love

4031
02:21:41,349 --> 02:21:39,280
watching that stuff go up and down holy

4032
02:21:42,790 --> 02:21:41,359
cow i'm going let's go for a dog

4033
02:21:45,030 --> 02:21:42,800
let's go to the moon let's go to the

4034
02:21:46,790 --> 02:21:45,040
moon um no i would love to see you know

4035
02:21:48,389 --> 02:21:46,800
fun the show off of the dogecoin you

4036
02:21:51,429 --> 02:21:48,399
know like that would be killer

4037
02:21:51,910 --> 02:21:51,439
uh but yeah dude it's there's there's

4038
02:21:53,830 --> 02:21:51,920
just

4039
02:21:55,349 --> 02:21:53,840
a lot of questions that this society

4040
02:21:56,870 --> 02:21:55,359
needs to really look in the mirror and

4041
02:22:00,389 --> 02:21:56,880
ask itself

4042
02:22:03,030 --> 02:22:00,399
like you know and implement some things

4043
02:22:04,630 --> 02:22:03,040
specifically taking care of the the most

4044
02:22:05,750 --> 02:22:04,640
vulnerable and the most poorest people

4045
02:22:09,429 --> 02:22:05,760
so that way

4046
02:22:12,469 --> 02:22:09,439
we can get we don't have uneducated

4047
02:22:14,790 --> 02:22:12,479
racist angry people with no health care

4048
02:22:15,910 --> 02:22:14,800
uh and nowhere to feel like they're

4049
02:22:17,270 --> 02:22:15,920
being useful

4050
02:22:19,830 --> 02:22:17,280
you know like we need to give people a

4051
02:22:22,950 --> 02:22:19,840
sense of purpose we need to give them a

4052
02:22:25,110 --> 02:22:22,960
um a reason to

4053
02:22:25,990 --> 02:22:25,120
be creative and a reason to live and a

4054
02:22:28,710 --> 02:22:26,000
reason to

4055
02:22:30,469 --> 02:22:28,720
to add to society and if you're working

4056
02:22:32,389 --> 02:22:30,479
80 hours a week

4057
02:22:34,150 --> 02:22:32,399
because your husband got arrested for a

4058
02:22:36,550 --> 02:22:34,160
minor drug charge

4059
02:22:38,630 --> 02:22:36,560
uh and now you're the only person in the

4060
02:22:39,590 --> 02:22:38,640
house who has to feed two kids and pay

4061
02:22:42,790 --> 02:22:39,600
rent

4062
02:22:45,670 --> 02:22:42,800
like i'm sorry that's not right like

4063
02:22:47,349 --> 02:22:45,680
it's not right um and there should be

4064
02:22:48,550 --> 02:22:47,359
safety nets for people like that and i

4065
02:22:51,590 --> 02:22:48,560
have a lot of empathy

4066
02:22:52,550 --> 02:22:51,600
for for people who didn't get the fair

4067
02:22:54,950 --> 02:22:52,560
chance or a fair

4068
02:22:55,590 --> 02:22:54,960
shake that they that that every human

4069
02:22:58,389 --> 02:22:55,600
should have

4070
02:22:59,190 --> 02:22:58,399
an opportunity to and this is a great

4071
02:23:00,950 --> 02:22:59,200
country to

4072
02:23:03,349 --> 02:23:00,960
explore and chase those opportunities

4073
02:23:06,950 --> 02:23:03,359
but it's also a country that

4074
02:23:07,429 --> 02:23:06,960
very much gives certain people a head

4075
02:23:11,990 --> 02:23:07,439
start

4076
02:23:14,710 --> 02:23:12,000
when they begin that journey

4077
02:23:15,910 --> 02:23:14,720
you know um if this is you know a

4078
02:23:19,270 --> 02:23:15,920
hundred yard race

4079
02:23:23,110 --> 02:23:19,280
a lot of this a lot of society

4080
02:23:25,110 --> 02:23:23,120
uh starts on the the one yard line

4081
02:23:28,469 --> 02:23:25,120
and and there's a segment of society

4082
02:23:31,670 --> 02:23:28,479
that gets an 80 yard head start

4083
02:23:33,910 --> 02:23:31,680
and and it's generational right you know

4084
02:23:35,349 --> 02:23:33,920
and at some point we all as a people

4085
02:23:38,870 --> 02:23:35,359
have to go

4086
02:23:40,710 --> 02:23:38,880
when's enough enough like you don't need

4087
02:23:42,309 --> 02:23:40,720
10 yachts you don't need a private

4088
02:23:44,230 --> 02:23:42,319
island and if you do

4089
02:23:45,910 --> 02:23:44,240
great but you're not going to have 10 of

4090
02:23:48,309 --> 02:23:45,920
them you know you're not

4091
02:23:50,070 --> 02:23:48,319
like there's got to be a way to you know

4092
02:23:52,070 --> 02:23:50,080
there's got to be a cap

4093
02:23:53,910 --> 02:23:52,080
a cap on it and then anything after that

4094
02:23:55,190 --> 02:23:53,920
capture you get a piece of but the rest

4095
02:23:57,429 --> 02:23:55,200
of it goes to social

4096
02:23:58,630 --> 02:23:57,439
social programs like social security

4097
02:24:01,990 --> 02:23:58,640
like health care

4098
02:24:02,389 --> 02:24:02,000
um you know like a ubi a universal basic

4099
02:24:05,590 --> 02:24:02,399
income

4100
02:24:08,870 --> 02:24:05,600
things that people need to get

4101
02:24:10,870 --> 02:24:08,880
because look ai is coming it's coming

4102
02:24:12,870 --> 02:24:10,880
like like all of these jobs and

4103
02:24:14,150 --> 02:24:12,880
restaurants and truck drivers and all of

4104
02:24:14,790 --> 02:24:14,160
these things are going to start going

4105
02:24:17,429 --> 02:24:14,800
away

4106
02:24:19,349 --> 02:24:17,439
and a large segment of our societies

4107
02:24:20,710 --> 02:24:19,359
blue collar workers where are they going

4108
02:24:22,630 --> 02:24:20,720
to go

4109
02:24:24,070 --> 02:24:22,640
when you when you replace their truck

4110
02:24:26,870 --> 02:24:24,080
with an ai

4111
02:24:27,990 --> 02:24:26,880
like it's what happens to those truck

4112
02:24:30,790 --> 02:24:28,000
stops those restaurants

4113
02:24:32,070 --> 02:24:30,800
and those people like we we really need

4114
02:24:34,070 --> 02:24:32,080
to like look at

4115
02:24:35,190 --> 02:24:34,080
everything we're doing as a planet as a

4116
02:24:37,349 --> 02:24:35,200
society and go

4117
02:24:38,550 --> 02:24:37,359
oh man maybe this is it's not

4118
02:24:40,870 --> 02:24:38,560
sustainable

4119
02:24:42,150 --> 02:24:40,880
period like if three billion people on

4120
02:24:44,389 --> 02:24:42,160
the planet

4121
02:24:46,070 --> 02:24:44,399
we can only do what we're doing for so

4122
02:24:49,190 --> 02:24:46,080
long

4123
02:24:50,389 --> 02:24:49,200
and it's not easy i mean as you we all

4124
02:24:53,590 --> 02:24:50,399
can agree but

4125
02:24:55,510 --> 02:24:53,600
it's easy to consume yeah like

4126
02:24:56,790 --> 02:24:55,520
dude hot dogs are great 7-eleven has

4127
02:24:59,510 --> 02:24:56,800
cheap hot dogs yeah

4128
02:25:00,950 --> 02:24:59,520
awesome but they're very not very

4129
02:25:03,190 --> 02:25:00,960
nutritious anyway

4130
02:25:04,070 --> 02:25:03,200
so this is how i want to connect

4131
02:25:07,830 --> 02:25:04,080
everything to

4132
02:25:10,550 --> 02:25:07,840
to this topic that this alien ufo and in

4133
02:25:11,750 --> 02:25:10,560
technology where it can bring us and i

4134
02:25:14,150 --> 02:25:11,760
think the root of it

4135
02:25:15,429 --> 02:25:14,160
is is this this the monetary system that

4136
02:25:18,070 --> 02:25:15,439
we have in place and now

4137
02:25:18,710 --> 02:25:18,080
look dude i'm only a doctor scientist i

4138
02:25:21,190 --> 02:25:18,720
don't know

4139
02:25:22,630 --> 02:25:21,200
[\h__\h] about economics but if i can

4140
02:25:24,150 --> 02:25:22,640
understand that there's a problem here

4141
02:25:27,510 --> 02:25:24,160
and something's [\h__\h] up then

4142
02:25:30,469 --> 02:25:27,520
yeah come on the monetary system and

4143
02:25:31,110 --> 02:25:30,479
and jonah i loved joe you have amazing

4144
02:25:32,790 --> 02:25:31,120
you know

4145
02:25:34,870 --> 02:25:32,800
we could talk about this for hours but

4146
02:25:35,510 --> 02:25:34,880
like it's not so much the barter system

4147
02:25:36,950 --> 02:25:35,520
it's it's

4148
02:25:38,550 --> 02:25:36,960
it's we're looking at what are the

4149
02:25:39,429 --> 02:25:38,560
problems with this monetary system and

4150
02:25:42,630 --> 02:25:39,439
that like

4151
02:25:44,870 --> 02:25:42,640
the incoming and inequality is is

4152
02:25:46,630 --> 02:25:44,880
insane man and if you just took that

4153
02:25:48,150 --> 02:25:46,640
part away and like figured out something

4154
02:25:49,910 --> 02:25:48,160
better

4155
02:25:51,349 --> 02:25:49,920
that's i think we could all point to

4156
02:25:52,150 --> 02:25:51,359
that's the issue right there it's just

4157
02:25:54,630 --> 02:25:52,160
it's the monetary

4158
02:25:56,790 --> 02:25:54,640
thing like well it's you know it's

4159
02:25:58,710 --> 02:25:56,800
taxing the people who should be taxed

4160
02:26:01,110 --> 02:25:58,720
that's part of the problem you need to

4161
02:26:02,150 --> 02:26:01,120
tax the one percent a lot more than what

4162
02:26:05,990 --> 02:26:02,160
we tax them

4163
02:26:08,469 --> 02:26:06,000
and we also need to to curb our spending

4164
02:26:10,710 --> 02:26:08,479
why don't we just get rid of the the way

4165
02:26:13,910 --> 02:26:10,720
we think about money how about that

4166
02:26:14,309 --> 02:26:13,920
uh he just spent a [\h__\h] load of money

4167
02:26:17,429 --> 02:26:14,319
there

4168
02:26:19,990 --> 02:26:17,439
good luck good luck getting rid of

4169
02:26:21,910 --> 02:26:20,000
money if that's if that's the hill

4170
02:26:22,630 --> 02:26:21,920
you're gonna die on i can't join you my

4171
02:26:24,710 --> 02:26:22,640
friend

4172
02:26:26,790 --> 02:26:24,720
it's just not it's uh we're not we're

4173
02:26:28,630 --> 02:26:26,800
not we're not at that star trek society

4174
02:26:29,110 --> 02:26:28,640
yet let's get to the singularity first

4175
02:26:30,950 --> 02:26:29,120
and then

4176
02:26:32,150 --> 02:26:30,960
maybe we can start talking about getting

4177
02:26:34,230 --> 02:26:32,160
rid of courage

4178
02:26:36,070 --> 02:26:34,240
that's the thing that's the theme of our

4179
02:26:39,190 --> 02:26:36,080
combos like their steps all right

4180
02:26:41,110 --> 02:26:39,200
hey there's no for sure um

4181
02:26:42,469 --> 02:26:41,120
i think yeah i mean eventually it's it's

4182
02:26:44,389 --> 02:26:42,479
probably gonna work its way there it's

4183
02:26:46,550 --> 02:26:44,399
just not now is not the time

4184
02:26:48,230 --> 02:26:46,560
like look we we just gotta convince him

4185
02:26:50,150 --> 02:26:48,240
to tax them fairly

4186
02:26:52,550 --> 02:26:50,160
like we just want to tax you fairly and

4187
02:26:54,790 --> 02:26:52,560
that is almost impossible to do

4188
02:26:57,030 --> 02:26:54,800
um but i think also you need to like

4189
02:26:57,750 --> 02:26:57,040
because you can seize every fortune 500

4190
02:27:00,230 --> 02:26:57,760
company

4191
02:27:01,190 --> 02:27:00,240
in the world and that wouldn't cover

4192
02:27:04,309 --> 02:27:01,200
three months of our

4193
02:27:07,590 --> 02:27:04,319
annual budget like you could seize it

4194
02:27:10,150 --> 02:27:07,600
seize it take it okay um

4195
02:27:10,710 --> 02:27:10,160
but this has to do with our military

4196
02:27:13,990 --> 02:27:10,720
spending

4197
02:27:14,309 --> 02:27:14,000
we've we just spent trillions of dollars

4198
02:27:17,270 --> 02:27:14,319
on

4199
02:27:18,230 --> 02:27:17,280
military stuff and bombing people and

4200
02:27:21,110 --> 02:27:18,240
burning fuel

4201
02:27:23,349 --> 02:27:21,120
and building new jets and research r d

4202
02:27:26,630 --> 02:27:23,359
into all of these things that that just

4203
02:27:27,429 --> 02:27:26,640
kill people and we need to look at that

4204
02:27:29,830 --> 02:27:27,439
budget

4205
02:27:30,790 --> 02:27:29,840
and say okay how could we cut that by 30

4206
02:27:34,309 --> 02:27:30,800
35

4207
02:27:36,150 --> 02:27:34,319
and reinvest that into education science

4208
02:27:38,790 --> 02:27:36,160
literature you know all of these things

4209
02:27:41,190 --> 02:27:38,800
that people desperately need a ubi

4210
02:27:42,630 --> 02:27:41,200
healthcare infrastructure like so so

4211
02:27:46,469 --> 02:27:42,640
much and that's why it's

4212
02:27:48,950 --> 02:27:46,479
it's tough to find a place for this uap

4213
02:27:50,870 --> 02:27:48,960
topic to politically live you know but

4214
02:27:52,150 --> 02:27:50,880
you can talk about all of those other

4215
02:27:53,429 --> 02:27:52,160
things if those are the things you

4216
02:27:55,190 --> 02:27:53,439
believe in and maybe you completely

4217
02:27:57,030 --> 02:27:55,200
disagree with me maybe your things are

4218
02:27:58,309 --> 02:27:57,040
gun rights and less government and this

4219
02:28:00,710 --> 02:27:58,319
and that great

4220
02:28:02,469 --> 02:28:00,720
awesome go to my website download my

4221
02:28:05,110 --> 02:28:02,479
list call your senators

4222
02:28:05,750 --> 02:28:05,120
tell them exactly how you feel you know

4223
02:28:09,429 --> 02:28:05,760
um

4224
02:28:12,230 --> 02:28:09,439
yeah that's that's what we have to do

4225
02:28:15,270 --> 02:28:12,240
don't matter what the issue so you know

4226
02:28:17,510 --> 02:28:15,280
that's kind of where i stand on it man

4227
02:28:18,550 --> 02:28:17,520
yeah absolutely man yeah it doesn't

4228
02:28:21,349 --> 02:28:18,560
matter

4229
02:28:22,870 --> 02:28:21,359
like like you said politically it

4230
02:28:24,950 --> 02:28:22,880
doesn't matter where you stand

4231
02:28:27,110 --> 02:28:24,960
this is an issue that affects the entire

4232
02:28:28,309 --> 02:28:27,120
world and both sides are interested

4233
02:28:29,750 --> 02:28:28,319
that's the other thing too

4234
02:28:31,349 --> 02:28:29,760
like you could put marco rubio and

4235
02:28:32,550 --> 02:28:31,359
hillary clinton in the same room and say

4236
02:28:34,950 --> 02:28:32,560
all right guys you're only allowed to

4237
02:28:37,190 --> 02:28:34,960
talk about ufos for three hours

4238
02:28:38,630 --> 02:28:37,200
and then when you come out of that room

4239
02:28:40,550 --> 02:28:38,640
not only are they going to have a killer

4240
02:28:42,070 --> 02:28:40,560
conversation about ufos because duh

4241
02:28:43,670 --> 02:28:42,080
it's fun to talk about look at us we've

4242
02:28:46,870 --> 02:28:43,680
been going for two and a half hours

4243
02:28:48,870 --> 02:28:46,880
uh but what you might also find is maybe

4244
02:28:51,429 --> 02:28:48,880
they come out of that room agreeing on

4245
02:28:53,110 --> 02:28:51,439
one or two other issues that maybe you

4246
02:28:54,710 --> 02:28:53,120
didn't think you'd agree on you know

4247
02:28:56,630 --> 02:28:54,720
that's all i'm saying dude like it's a

4248
02:28:58,389 --> 02:28:56,640
great this is a great topic to bring

4249
02:28:59,830 --> 02:28:58,399
everyone to the table at

4250
02:29:01,110 --> 02:28:59,840
and then let's start talking let's see

4251
02:29:02,790 --> 02:29:01,120
what else we agree on maybe we can

4252
02:29:06,230 --> 02:29:02,800
figure out some other issues

4253
02:29:07,830 --> 02:29:06,240
in in this uap discussion who knows

4254
02:29:09,750 --> 02:29:07,840
so that's that's the way i'm pitching

4255
02:29:11,270 --> 02:29:09,760
into our politicians you know that's why

4256
02:29:13,110 --> 02:29:11,280
the way i try to talk about it every

4257
02:29:14,870 --> 02:29:13,120
time i do a show or whatever

4258
02:29:16,550 --> 02:29:14,880
you know we have to call man we have to

4259
02:29:17,670 --> 02:29:16,560
call we have to ask because we've never

4260
02:29:21,030 --> 02:29:17,680
done it before we've

4261
02:29:22,150 --> 02:29:21,040
never done this never ever so to say it

4262
02:29:24,230 --> 02:29:22,160
doesn't work

4263
02:29:26,150 --> 02:29:24,240
is well you don't have the data to prove

4264
02:29:27,750 --> 02:29:26,160
that let's maybe get some data

4265
02:29:29,830 --> 02:29:27,760
you know like because that's what we're

4266
02:29:33,030 --> 02:29:29,840
always asking for more data well if

4267
02:29:36,950 --> 02:29:33,040
if 20 000 people saw my live stream

4268
02:29:40,230 --> 02:29:36,960
and only you know let's say

4269
02:29:43,030 --> 02:29:40,240
300 of them called success

4270
02:29:46,469 --> 02:29:43,040
i'm so stoked with that and i think 300

4271
02:29:49,110 --> 02:29:46,479
people calling tweeting mailing writing

4272
02:29:51,030 --> 02:29:49,120
had an effect of some kind and next year

4273
02:29:53,510 --> 02:29:51,040
who knows maybe we get a thousand

4274
02:29:55,030 --> 02:29:53,520
or two thousand god forbid we get five

4275
02:29:56,950 --> 02:29:55,040
thousand people calling in the congress

4276
02:29:58,550 --> 02:29:56,960
asking for more transparency and data on

4277
02:30:01,910 --> 02:29:58,560
uaps

4278
02:30:04,950 --> 02:30:01,920
it's gonna it look the inspector

4279
02:30:05,349 --> 02:30:04,960
general is looking at this now you know

4280
02:30:10,150 --> 02:30:05,359
like

4281
02:30:12,950 --> 02:30:10,160
all i'm telling you boys is

4282
02:30:13,910 --> 02:30:12,960
be ready for people to want more content

4283
02:30:16,469 --> 02:30:13,920
from you

4284
02:30:19,510 --> 02:30:16,479
because they're gonna be looking for it

4285
02:30:22,150 --> 02:30:19,520
i'm telling you i'm telling you

4286
02:30:22,870 --> 02:30:22,160
yeah man yeah it's it's uh it's one of

4287
02:30:26,230 --> 02:30:22,880
those things it's

4288
02:30:27,429 --> 02:30:26,240
it's it's like everybody's been talking

4289
02:30:28,950 --> 02:30:27,439
about this for years like

4290
02:30:30,550 --> 02:30:28,960
what can we do what can we do what can

4291
02:30:32,950 --> 02:30:30,560
we do well

4292
02:30:33,910 --> 02:30:32,960
i think we all know now like it's pretty

4293
02:30:37,030 --> 02:30:33,920
all you got to do is

4294
02:30:39,349 --> 02:30:37,040
make a call and request something like

4295
02:30:41,590 --> 02:30:39,359
they work for us right like

4296
02:30:42,550 --> 02:30:41,600
if if you want to know more and you and

4297
02:30:45,750 --> 02:30:42,560
you want to

4298
02:30:48,309 --> 02:30:45,760
uh put more energy and effort into

4299
02:30:49,830 --> 02:30:48,319
what you're interested in all it takes

4300
02:30:52,389 --> 02:30:49,840
is a phone call like

4301
02:30:53,830 --> 02:30:52,399
it's well here's the craziest it only

4302
02:30:55,590 --> 02:30:53,840
costs 1.99

4303
02:30:56,950 --> 02:30:55,600
here's what's great about it is when you

4304
02:31:00,230 --> 02:30:56,960
hang up the phone

4305
02:31:01,830 --> 02:31:00,240
you're gonna feel so accomplished

4306
02:31:04,309 --> 02:31:01,840
even if that's the only thing you do in

4307
02:31:05,830 --> 02:31:04,319
the whole day if you make that call you

4308
02:31:07,670 --> 02:31:05,840
especially if you talk to somebody and

4309
02:31:09,270 --> 02:31:07,680
you're like hey i want to talk to you a

4310
02:31:10,790 --> 02:31:09,280
couple of minutes about uaps and why i

4311
02:31:12,550 --> 02:31:10,800
think it's important to have

4312
02:31:13,990 --> 02:31:12,560
discussion of transparency because

4313
02:31:16,950 --> 02:31:14,000
according to your colleagues

4314
02:31:18,070 --> 02:31:16,960
marco rubio and senate majority leader

4315
02:31:20,070 --> 02:31:18,080
harry reid

4316
02:31:21,590 --> 02:31:20,080
and you know the you know you could go

4317
02:31:23,270 --> 02:31:21,600
on and on about all these things that

4318
02:31:25,110 --> 02:31:23,280
are facts that they can relate to that

4319
02:31:26,790 --> 02:31:25,120
they can digest and chew

4320
02:31:29,030 --> 02:31:26,800
and if you keep your personal [\h__\h] out

4321
02:31:30,070 --> 02:31:29,040
of it and you stick to the script or or

4322
02:31:32,550 --> 02:31:30,080
sort of the

4323
02:31:34,230 --> 02:31:32,560
layout that we've given you we can make

4324
02:31:35,990 --> 02:31:34,240
a lot of noise in headway here

4325
02:31:37,429 --> 02:31:36,000
i mean we really can look we had people

4326
02:31:40,190 --> 02:31:37,439
from the i know for a

4327
02:31:41,590 --> 02:31:40,200
fact we had people from the pentagon the

4328
02:31:44,950 --> 02:31:41,600
uaptf

4329
02:31:47,030 --> 02:31:44,960
the o and i d and i i mean all of them

4330
02:31:49,750 --> 02:31:47,040
all the three letter alphabets

4331
02:31:50,389 --> 02:31:49,760
like agencies were watching that stream

4332
02:31:54,469 --> 02:31:50,399
like they

4333
02:31:59,190 --> 02:31:57,349
if this is a conspiracy let's just say

4334
02:32:00,710 --> 02:31:59,200
for a second

4335
02:32:02,389 --> 02:32:00,720
and this is just a way for them to get

4336
02:32:04,710 --> 02:32:02,399
money for a space program

4337
02:32:06,710 --> 02:32:04,720
i guarantee you the big phone home is an

4338
02:32:09,510 --> 02:32:06,720
event they were not intending

4339
02:32:11,349 --> 02:32:09,520
to happen they didn't think that that

4340
02:32:13,990 --> 02:32:11,359
something like that would come out of

4341
02:32:14,469 --> 02:32:14,000
this community because we've got the

4342
02:32:17,590 --> 02:32:14,479
label

4343
02:32:20,230 --> 02:32:17,600
of conspiracy theorists lazy

4344
02:32:22,070 --> 02:32:20,240
potheads druggies losers that live in

4345
02:32:24,230 --> 02:32:22,080
their basements with mom

4346
02:32:26,469 --> 02:32:24,240
that's not true anymore we're in a

4347
02:32:29,910 --> 02:32:26,479
garage bro

4348
02:32:33,030 --> 02:32:29,920
well what i'm saying is hey mom you know

4349
02:32:35,349 --> 02:32:33,040
give me the meat loaf i never

4350
02:32:36,309 --> 02:32:35,359
know what she's doing in there maybe my

4351
02:32:39,349 --> 02:32:36,319
slippers

4352
02:32:41,349 --> 02:32:39,359
uh no but it's like it's um you know

4353
02:32:43,670 --> 02:32:41,359
it's the conversations being had on

4354
02:32:45,990 --> 02:32:43,680
different levels now and so

4355
02:32:48,469 --> 02:32:46,000
you know the fact that a political

4356
02:32:50,469 --> 02:32:48,479
movement that had 20 000 eyeballs and a

4357
02:32:51,910 --> 02:32:50,479
reach of 1.3 million people

4358
02:32:53,910 --> 02:32:51,920
bet your ass that caught the attention

4359
02:32:54,630 --> 02:32:53,920
of our government and now they're trying

4360
02:32:57,429 --> 02:32:54,640
to go oh

4361
02:32:59,429 --> 02:32:57,439
[\h__\h] how do we keep this from getting

4362
02:33:02,150 --> 02:32:59,439
bigger

4363
02:33:02,950 --> 02:33:02,160
and then the answer is well you gotta

4364
02:33:04,469 --> 02:33:02,960
watch out

4365
02:33:05,750 --> 02:33:04,479
does that make you think maybe you gotta

4366
02:33:07,910 --> 02:33:05,760
watch out for some kind of

4367
02:33:08,790 --> 02:33:07,920
disinformation agent kind of thing is

4368
02:33:11,110 --> 02:33:08,800
are you

4369
02:33:13,349 --> 02:33:11,120
looking out for that kind of thing no i

4370
02:33:17,030 --> 02:33:13,359
get information all the time

4371
02:33:18,070 --> 02:33:17,040
and i never say it until it's verified

4372
02:33:20,790 --> 02:33:18,080
i'm not a reporter

4373
02:33:22,630 --> 02:33:20,800
dude i'm not an investigative journalist

4374
02:33:24,630 --> 02:33:22,640
i'm just a dude who's got a show

4375
02:33:26,469 --> 02:33:24,640
so i'm not gonna start saying [\h__\h] is

4376
02:33:27,670 --> 02:33:26,479
fact on my show that you'll never find

4377
02:33:29,349 --> 02:33:27,680
that on my channel

4378
02:33:31,110 --> 02:33:29,359
i don't know what these things are i

4379
02:33:32,630 --> 02:33:31,120
don't have the answers i've got some

4380
02:33:35,590 --> 02:33:32,640
theories i've got some thoughts

4381
02:33:37,190 --> 02:33:35,600
i've got some perspectives um but like

4382
02:33:39,030 --> 02:33:37,200
yeah we had somebody today who was

4383
02:33:40,790 --> 02:33:39,040
telling us a pretty wild story

4384
02:33:42,230 --> 02:33:40,800
and you know he was linking things to

4385
02:33:43,590 --> 02:33:42,240
some things i was like look

4386
02:33:45,190 --> 02:33:43,600
come back again let's have another

4387
02:33:46,870 --> 02:33:45,200
private chat to give me some more

4388
02:33:47,990 --> 02:33:46,880
details and if those details come to

4389
02:33:49,830 --> 02:33:48,000
fruition

4390
02:33:52,150 --> 02:33:49,840
if they are true and they actually

4391
02:33:54,550 --> 02:33:52,160
happen then we'll have you on the show

4392
02:33:55,750 --> 02:33:54,560
after the event has happened whatever

4393
02:33:58,469 --> 02:33:55,760
that is

4394
02:34:00,070 --> 02:33:58,479
and um and i will tell everybody that

4395
02:34:01,349 --> 02:34:00,080
you told us this three weeks ago yeah

4396
02:34:02,550 --> 02:34:01,359
i've got no problem doing that we can

4397
02:34:03,830 --> 02:34:02,560
have that kind of show

4398
02:34:05,910 --> 02:34:03,840
but i'm not gonna put you on the show

4399
02:34:07,750 --> 02:34:05,920
having you say you know these things

4400
02:34:08,389 --> 02:34:07,760
without me being able to verify it i

4401
02:34:11,510 --> 02:34:08,399
just can't

4402
02:34:14,070 --> 02:34:11,520
like i'm i i don't care who you are

4403
02:34:15,670 --> 02:34:14,080
don't care who you are um i respect that

4404
02:34:18,469 --> 02:34:15,680
you know so that's that's

4405
02:34:20,230 --> 02:34:18,479
that's the best i can do that's the most

4406
02:34:20,710 --> 02:34:20,240
i can promise people is that i don't

4407
02:34:22,950 --> 02:34:20,720
know

4408
02:34:24,150 --> 02:34:22,960
and i could also tell you i'm gonna be

4409
02:34:27,990 --> 02:34:24,160
wrong

4410
02:34:29,190 --> 02:34:28,000
difference between me

4411
02:34:30,630 --> 02:34:29,200
and a lot of other people when they're

4412
02:34:31,830 --> 02:34:30,640
wrong is i'll tell you when i'm wrong

4413
02:34:34,150 --> 02:34:31,840
and i'll make the correction

4414
02:34:36,469 --> 02:34:34,160
i'll make the apology um you know

4415
02:34:39,910 --> 02:34:36,479
because with this ufo topic

4416
02:34:41,429 --> 02:34:39,920
you're gonna be wrong yeah at some point

4417
02:34:43,030 --> 02:34:41,439
you're gonna be wrong so you just gotta

4418
02:34:45,990 --> 02:34:43,040
set that expectation hey

4419
02:34:47,349 --> 02:34:46,000
you know that's why i don't get excited

4420
02:34:50,070 --> 02:34:47,359
when things drop anymore

4421
02:34:51,670 --> 02:34:50,080
like i i try to stay as level as cool as

4422
02:34:54,630 --> 02:34:51,680
a cucumber as i can no matter

4423
02:34:56,309 --> 02:34:54,640
how exciting it is but you know of

4424
02:34:57,670 --> 02:34:56,319
course sometimes i will get excited but

4425
02:34:57,990 --> 02:34:57,680
we that's why i got michael there

4426
02:34:59,750 --> 02:34:58,000
because

4427
02:35:00,790 --> 02:34:59,760
he brings me down you know he's like all

4428
02:35:02,230 --> 02:35:00,800
right let's look at this from a

4429
02:35:03,670 --> 02:35:02,240
journalist that's why we got jazz that's

4430
02:35:05,349 --> 02:35:03,680
why we got all these minds

4431
02:35:07,830 --> 02:35:05,359
you know because everyone's gonna add a

4432
02:35:09,830 --> 02:35:07,840
little gem a little piece to the puzzle

4433
02:35:11,349 --> 02:35:09,840
and and now the picture's becoming more

4434
02:35:13,110 --> 02:35:11,359
clear because we're talking to each

4435
02:35:14,230 --> 02:35:13,120
other we're communicating like this is

4436
02:35:16,389 --> 02:35:14,240
what it's about

4437
02:35:18,150 --> 02:35:16,399
this is why live works so well because

4438
02:35:18,710 --> 02:35:18,160
you get people that ask questions in the

4439
02:35:20,389 --> 02:35:18,720
chat

4440
02:35:21,990 --> 02:35:20,399
you know we could bounce [\h__\h] off each

4441
02:35:23,590 --> 02:35:22,000
other we can have a conversation about

4442
02:35:25,190 --> 02:35:23,600
bob lazar one of us maybe doesn't

4443
02:35:28,150 --> 02:35:25,200
believe him and the others do

4444
02:35:30,230 --> 02:35:28,160
you know it's cool dude like this is

4445
02:35:32,630 --> 02:35:30,240
this is the new way

4446
02:35:33,510 --> 02:35:32,640
you know like either you're with us or

4447
02:35:36,950 --> 02:35:33,520
you're not

4448
02:35:40,309 --> 02:35:36,960
die off

4449
02:35:41,030 --> 02:35:40,319
yeah yeah it's uh yeah it's it's crazy

4450
02:35:43,830 --> 02:35:41,040
to see

4451
02:35:44,790 --> 02:35:43,840
that uh you know the the ones that adapt

4452
02:35:46,790 --> 02:35:44,800
and then there's there's

4453
02:35:48,309 --> 02:35:46,800
there's people that comment really like

4454
02:35:50,550 --> 02:35:48,319
hateful [\h__\h] on your

4455
02:35:51,349 --> 02:35:50,560
youtube channel like yeah man there's

4456
02:35:54,469 --> 02:35:51,359
some

4457
02:35:55,910 --> 02:35:54,479
really uh sour people out there don't

4458
02:35:59,030 --> 02:35:55,920
like the way things are going

4459
02:35:59,830 --> 02:35:59,040
but it's funny but it's funny it's funny

4460
02:36:01,990 --> 02:35:59,840
but also

4461
02:36:03,510 --> 02:36:02,000
there's like any time i get an angry

4462
02:36:06,870 --> 02:36:03,520
comment on youtube

4463
02:36:07,990 --> 02:36:06,880
i always try to agree with it i'll i'll

4464
02:36:10,230 --> 02:36:08,000
agree with i'll go you know what

4465
02:36:11,830 --> 02:36:10,240
you may actually make a great point um

4466
02:36:12,469 --> 02:36:11,840
it's a new channel i'm trying to change

4467
02:36:14,070 --> 02:36:12,479
some things

4468
02:36:16,230 --> 02:36:14,080
it's something i can maybe work on you

4469
02:36:17,270 --> 02:36:16,240
know um if you have any other opinions

4470
02:36:18,710 --> 02:36:17,280
let me know

4471
02:36:20,070 --> 02:36:18,720
and then nine times out of ten they'll

4472
02:36:21,990 --> 02:36:20,080
come back and they'll be like oh man i

4473
02:36:23,429 --> 02:36:22,000
didn't mean to come off like a jerk

4474
02:36:25,270 --> 02:36:23,439
like i think you actually have a pretty

4475
02:36:27,990 --> 02:36:25,280
good show i was just you know like

4476
02:36:29,830 --> 02:36:28,000
yeah that's my favorite way to to

4477
02:36:31,590 --> 02:36:29,840
dissolve that is when i get when we get

4478
02:36:33,670 --> 02:36:31,600
trolls on our youtube stuff and like

4479
02:36:34,710 --> 02:36:33,680
comments i say hey i'm so sorry you're

4480
02:36:37,270 --> 02:36:34,720
having a bad day

4481
02:36:38,550 --> 02:36:37,280
i hope you're feeling better soon bro

4482
02:36:40,150 --> 02:36:38,560
and i'm telling you because the person

4483
02:36:40,950 --> 02:36:40,160
behind that keyboard who's typing that

4484
02:36:43,429 --> 02:36:40,960
angry [\h__\h]

4485
02:36:45,510 --> 02:36:43,439
or hateful [\h__\h] even in some cases

4486
02:36:49,190 --> 02:36:45,520
they're in a lot of pain

4487
02:36:50,790 --> 02:36:49,200
physical emotional financial

4488
02:36:52,309 --> 02:36:50,800
there could be who knows what's going on

4489
02:36:55,349 --> 02:36:52,319
in their life and so

4490
02:36:56,870 --> 02:36:55,359
that's why i try to approach everyone

4491
02:36:59,590 --> 02:36:56,880
with a

4492
02:37:00,309 --> 02:36:59,600
are you good you know like you do you

4493
02:37:03,110 --> 02:37:00,319
need a hug

4494
02:37:04,550 --> 02:37:03,120
you know oh you're racist all right man

4495
02:37:04,870 --> 02:37:04,560
i mean i can't believe i got to do this

4496
02:37:06,790 --> 02:37:04,880
but

4497
02:37:08,309 --> 02:37:06,800
sure come here let me give you a hug you

4498
02:37:10,150 --> 02:37:08,319
know let's let's talk about something

4499
02:37:11,990 --> 02:37:10,160
that we both love oh what is that music

4500
02:37:13,990 --> 02:37:12,000
oh you're in a steely dan dude i love

4501
02:37:16,550 --> 02:37:14,000
steely dan

4502
02:37:19,750 --> 02:37:16,560
you know you know no you finally found

4503
02:37:21,510 --> 02:37:19,760
somebody that's interested

4504
02:37:23,750 --> 02:37:21,520
you know whatever whatever it is man

4505
02:37:26,469 --> 02:37:23,760
like we we all have common grounds uh we

4506
02:37:29,110 --> 02:37:26,479
just gotta sometimes

4507
02:37:29,670 --> 02:37:29,120
you know take our emotions out of it and

4508
02:37:32,309 --> 02:37:29,680
um

4509
02:37:33,670 --> 02:37:32,319
and apply just a little bit of sense i

4510
02:37:35,429 --> 02:37:33,680
think one thing we all

4511
02:37:37,190 --> 02:37:35,439
have in common is that i think all three

4512
02:37:40,550 --> 02:37:37,200
of us have mustaches but

4513
02:37:43,830 --> 02:37:40,560
uh uh dave from space.radio uh give

4514
02:37:47,429 --> 02:37:43,840
your mustache a shout out oh thanks man

4515
02:37:50,630 --> 02:37:47,439
thanks my mother hates it

4516
02:37:51,510 --> 02:37:50,640
most mothers do oh man they hate facial

4517
02:37:54,550 --> 02:37:51,520
hair but she

4518
02:37:56,550 --> 02:37:54,560
like yeah they hate my i've really let

4519
02:37:58,710 --> 02:37:56,560
go during the quarantine as far as my

4520
02:37:59,990 --> 02:37:58,720
facial and and hair on top i haven't had

4521
02:38:01,270 --> 02:38:00,000
a haircut in a year and i'm like

4522
02:38:03,429 --> 02:38:01,280
this is the longest my hair has ever

4523
02:38:05,349 --> 02:38:03,439
been it feels awesome i told my i was

4524
02:38:07,510 --> 02:38:05,359
teasing my girlfriend i'm like babe

4525
02:38:08,469 --> 02:38:07,520
i'm getting a mullet you can't cut it

4526
02:38:12,309 --> 02:38:08,479
nowadays you're like

4527
02:38:13,910 --> 02:38:12,319
no i could cut it i could it's

4528
02:38:15,990 --> 02:38:13,920
starting to get summertime it's getting

4529
02:38:16,950 --> 02:38:16,000
hot out here so i think i'm gonna get

4530
02:38:19,270 --> 02:38:16,960
sick of this real quick

4531
02:38:21,590 --> 02:38:19,280
quarantine's been wild for me this year

4532
02:38:25,590 --> 02:38:21,600
yeah i see that

4533
02:38:27,510 --> 02:38:25,600
let it go dude this year yeah yeah

4534
02:38:32,550 --> 02:38:27,520
i've been in quarantine for like eight

4535
02:38:39,190 --> 02:38:35,990
oh man that's awesome

4536
02:38:39,910 --> 02:38:39,200
dude yeah i man joe do you have anything

4537
02:38:42,469 --> 02:38:39,920
else

4538
02:38:43,670 --> 02:38:42,479
i mean we this is a man it's been an

4539
02:38:45,110 --> 02:38:43,680
awesome time

4540
02:38:47,349 --> 02:38:45,120
thank you man yeah i've had a great time

4541
02:38:48,070 --> 02:38:47,359
with you guys i i really got to know you

4542
02:38:50,710 --> 02:38:48,080
tonight lou

4543
02:38:51,190 --> 02:38:50,720
like i know you we got introduced uh

4544
02:38:53,110 --> 02:38:51,200
from

4545
02:38:54,950 --> 02:38:53,120
chad and then like i reached out to you

4546
02:38:56,630 --> 02:38:54,960
on tw on twitter and you were so

4547
02:38:58,550 --> 02:38:56,640
nice to me on twitter like yo what's up

4548
02:39:00,550 --> 02:38:58,560
let's hang out or you know

4549
02:39:02,469 --> 02:39:00,560
so i man i really appreciate the the

4550
02:39:04,469 --> 02:39:02,479
love and support that you've shown us

4551
02:39:06,070 --> 02:39:04,479
and for for including us and everything

4552
02:39:06,790 --> 02:39:06,080
that you have and for what you're doing

4553
02:39:08,950 --> 02:39:06,800
man

4554
02:39:10,790 --> 02:39:08,960
uh i can't thank you enough and dude

4555
02:39:13,190 --> 02:39:10,800
i've had a blast with you tonight

4556
02:39:15,349 --> 02:39:13,200
hey ditto man this was uh i was really

4557
02:39:17,030 --> 02:39:15,359
looking forward to this conversation

4558
02:39:18,469 --> 02:39:17,040
and i know my girlfriend's probably

4559
02:39:20,150 --> 02:39:18,479
pretty pissed at me because she's had a

4560
02:39:21,830 --> 02:39:20,160
bad day and she wants to talk about it

4561
02:39:23,270 --> 02:39:21,840
but i was like babe i gotta talk to

4562
02:39:25,590 --> 02:39:23,280
these guys um

4563
02:39:27,270 --> 02:39:25,600
you know um you should play her that

4564
02:39:32,710 --> 02:39:27,280
that uh that fuel song

4565
02:39:37,590 --> 02:39:34,790
do you or do you not want to see me on

4566
02:39:39,990 --> 02:39:37,600
tomorrow's show

4567
02:39:42,150 --> 02:39:40,000
if i pull that move i think i'm done but

4568
02:39:44,309 --> 02:39:42,160
uh but yeah no man you guys

4569
02:39:46,070 --> 02:39:44,319
i'm so happy i met you dudes i'm so

4570
02:39:47,590 --> 02:39:46,080
happy you know i know you

4571
02:39:49,590 --> 02:39:47,600
you're in a weird time zone and it's

4572
02:39:51,670 --> 02:39:49,600
tough for you guys to make our chats but

4573
02:39:53,110 --> 02:39:51,680
you guys have open door policies and

4574
02:39:55,030 --> 02:39:53,120
we're gonna we're

4575
02:39:56,150 --> 02:39:55,040
the the schedule's not final you know

4576
02:39:58,389 --> 02:39:56,160
we're trying to make it

4577
02:39:59,670 --> 02:39:58,399
so we have times where everyone can come

4578
02:40:02,150 --> 02:39:59,680
play um

4579
02:40:03,030 --> 02:40:02,160
and and and and put in their two cents

4580
02:40:04,389 --> 02:40:03,040
because i think

4581
02:40:06,309 --> 02:40:04,399
you know these group discussions are

4582
02:40:06,630 --> 02:40:06,319
where it's at man like people love this

4583
02:40:09,190 --> 02:40:06,640
stuff

4584
02:40:10,309 --> 02:40:09,200
people love hearing this topic discussed

4585
02:40:12,950 --> 02:40:10,319
in this way

4586
02:40:14,070 --> 02:40:12,960
by people who who can think about it in

4587
02:40:16,230 --> 02:40:14,080
a different way

4588
02:40:17,990 --> 02:40:16,240
so um so keep up what you guys are doing

4589
02:40:21,429 --> 02:40:18,000
man don't don't stop i

4590
02:40:23,670 --> 02:40:21,439
i love the show um and uh yeah

4591
02:40:25,670 --> 02:40:23,680
thanks for having me hell yeah dude

4592
02:40:34,070 --> 02:40:25,680
thanks for coming on dude it's been real

4593
02:40:35,990 --> 02:40:34,080
sweet yeah

4594
02:40:39,110 --> 02:40:36,000
that's the only thing we can say in that

4595
02:40:39,120 --> 02:40:45,429
it's very cold i don't know

4596
02:40:49,750 --> 02:40:47,990
oh my gosh all right man well i'm gonna

4597
02:40:50,710 --> 02:40:49,760
go i'm gonna go make some dinner for my

4598
02:40:53,110 --> 02:40:50,720
girlfriend

4599
02:40:54,230 --> 02:40:53,120
hell yeah and i'll see you guys uh i'll

4600
02:40:55,510 --> 02:40:54,240
see you guys tomorrow

4601
02:40:57,830 --> 02:40:55,520
you know cool man if you guys want to

4602
02:40:59,990 --> 02:40:57,840
come hang out on the show we're down

4603
02:41:02,469 --> 02:41:00,000
here this sounds good bro we'll see you

4604
02:41:04,230 --> 02:41:02,479
later dude yeah later all right peace

4605
02:41:07,110 --> 02:41:04,240
bye

4606
02:41:07,910 --> 02:41:07,120
hello yeah man it was fun man that was

4607
02:41:12,309 --> 02:41:07,920
awesome

4608
02:41:17,190 --> 02:41:14,630
so for those listening that didn't know

4609
02:41:18,950 --> 02:41:17,200
this like

4610
02:41:20,550 --> 02:41:18,960
joe were just like bullshitting before

4611
02:41:22,870 --> 02:41:20,560
uh luke came on we were like

4612
02:41:24,710 --> 02:41:22,880
joe you you said it first like that is

4613
02:41:26,230 --> 02:41:24,720
speed the ass

4614
02:41:28,630 --> 02:41:26,240
and then it started real calm and then

4615
02:41:30,389 --> 02:41:28,640
and then we just kept going

4616
02:41:31,830 --> 02:41:30,399
i like that he just joined in with it

4617
02:41:33,030 --> 02:41:31,840
just joined in immediately that was

4618
02:41:35,670 --> 02:41:33,040
hilarious

4619
02:41:36,469 --> 02:41:35,680
like yeah that was that was great man

4620
02:41:38,710 --> 02:41:36,479
that was great

4621
02:41:40,710 --> 02:41:38,720
uh yeah i i really enjoyed talking to

4622
02:41:44,630 --> 02:41:40,720
him i didn't necessarily

4623
02:41:48,150 --> 02:41:44,640
agree with uh the the

4624
02:41:51,110 --> 02:41:48,160
some uh avenues or or

4625
02:41:52,230 --> 02:41:51,120
angles viewpoints um but i agree with

4626
02:41:55,670 --> 02:41:52,240
the end message

4627
02:41:57,349 --> 02:41:55,680
for sure 100 and you know

4628
02:42:00,070 --> 02:41:57,359
that other [\h__\h] you could just sweep

4629
02:42:03,110 --> 02:42:00,080
under the rug like i said we uh

4630
02:42:03,830 --> 02:42:03,120
we uh we all agree kind of on this end

4631
02:42:05,910 --> 02:42:03,840
goal

4632
02:42:07,830 --> 02:42:05,920
how how do we how do we you know

4633
02:42:09,910 --> 02:42:07,840
accomplish that you know what i'm saying

4634
02:42:12,070 --> 02:42:09,920
yeah i mean that's the point right like

4635
02:42:15,670 --> 02:42:12,080
we don't have to agree that's

4636
02:42:17,910 --> 02:42:15,680
fine let's just get to where we're going

4637
02:42:19,429 --> 02:42:17,920
to okay everybody everybody's really

4638
02:42:21,190 --> 02:42:19,439
good at arguing in the car

4639
02:42:23,110 --> 02:42:21,200
right but once we get to where we're

4640
02:42:25,510 --> 02:42:23,120
going and we get out of that car

4641
02:42:27,030 --> 02:42:25,520
out of a long road trip i've forgotten

4642
02:42:30,389 --> 02:42:27,040
everything we've argued about

4643
02:42:32,710 --> 02:42:30,399
yeah yeah dude we're on disneyland yes

4644
02:42:33,590 --> 02:42:32,720
yeah and everything's amazing yeah but

4645
02:42:35,830 --> 02:42:33,600
dude yeah i mean

4646
02:42:38,150 --> 02:42:35,840
back to like hey shout out to dave from

4647
02:42:40,710 --> 02:42:38,160
uh sor spaced out radio man like

4648
02:42:42,630 --> 02:42:40,720
uh another person who's been like uh one

4649
02:42:44,230 --> 02:42:42,640
of our champions and really talking

4650
02:42:45,429 --> 02:42:44,240
about us on the show and getting the

4651
02:42:47,429 --> 02:42:45,439
word out there and

4652
02:42:48,790 --> 02:42:47,439
and man like the reason i'm bringing

4653
02:42:50,230 --> 02:42:48,800
this up is because like dude this is

4654
02:42:52,230 --> 02:42:50,240
like my favorite thing to do is

4655
02:42:54,230 --> 02:42:52,240
talking about this stuff oh i love it

4656
02:42:57,030 --> 02:42:54,240
yeah it just because we have microphones

4657
02:42:58,550 --> 02:42:57,040
like doesn't make us any everybody's on

4658
02:42:59,830 --> 02:42:58,560
the same playing field like like people

4659
02:43:02,790 --> 02:42:59,840
in the chat like

4660
02:43:03,670 --> 02:43:02,800
we thrive off of your comments and your

4661
02:43:07,990 --> 02:43:03,680
ideas and like

4662
02:43:10,150 --> 02:43:08,000
what do you like uh and you know what

4663
02:43:12,230 --> 02:43:10,160
where's your head at like we're not

4664
02:43:13,030 --> 02:43:12,240
talking to a mirror here like we want to

4665
02:43:15,910 --> 02:43:13,040
talk to

4666
02:43:16,630 --> 02:43:15,920
you uh and and that's what that's where

4667
02:43:19,349 --> 02:43:16,640
it starts

4668
02:43:19,910 --> 02:43:19,359
and so i guess what i'm saying is do you

4669
02:43:21,910 --> 02:43:19,920
like

4670
02:43:24,070 --> 02:43:21,920
it it's just really cool the the

4671
02:43:25,110 --> 02:43:24,080
community that is surrounding this this

4672
02:43:27,510 --> 02:43:25,120
entire thing and

4673
02:43:28,630 --> 02:43:27,520
this is totally so much [\h__\h] fun dude

4674
02:43:30,870 --> 02:43:28,640
so much fun

4675
02:43:33,510 --> 02:43:30,880
absolutely yeah that was a real good

4676
02:43:36,150 --> 02:43:33,520
time i i enjoyed having luan for sure

4677
02:43:38,630 --> 02:43:36,160
we'll have to we'll have to go uh crash

4678
02:43:41,750 --> 02:43:38,640
one of his shows one day

4679
02:43:43,269 --> 02:43:41,760
bro we we basically crashed uh

4680
02:43:45,269 --> 02:43:43,279
phone home remember when he brought us

4681
02:43:46,469 --> 02:43:45,279
in yeah he had all like those

4682
02:43:48,790 --> 02:43:46,479
they were having like a real deep

4683
02:43:50,469 --> 02:43:48,800
conversation and we just showed up

4684
02:43:52,389 --> 02:43:50,479
and everybody started laughing we didn't

4685
02:43:53,349 --> 02:43:52,399
even say anything we just were like hey

4686
02:43:56,389 --> 02:43:53,359
what's up

4687
02:43:58,230 --> 02:43:56,399
bro like if you go back and watch it

4688
02:44:00,469 --> 02:43:58,240
it's like yeah everybody's had a really

4689
02:44:02,469 --> 02:44:00,479
serious conversation

4690
02:44:07,480 --> 02:44:02,479
there's like intelligence guys you're

4691
02:44:07,490 --> 02:44:14,790
[Music]

4692
02:44:18,870 --> 02:44:16,630
everybody just starts giggling like who

4693
02:44:22,389 --> 02:44:18,880
the [\h__\h] are these guys

4694
02:44:24,070 --> 02:44:22,399
it's ben and jerry you know i thought

4695
02:44:25,190 --> 02:44:24,080
that the reference for brent ben and

4696
02:44:26,950 --> 02:44:25,200
jerry but was

4697
02:44:28,950 --> 02:44:26,960
do you think it's because of our names

4698
02:44:30,469 --> 02:44:28,960
on that show was well i i typed it in as

4699
02:44:31,830 --> 02:44:30,479
ben and joe

4700
02:44:33,510 --> 02:44:31,840
or do you think they had already had

4701
02:44:35,030 --> 02:44:33,520
that that conversation about ben and

4702
02:44:36,469 --> 02:44:35,040
jerry's ice cream or whatever i think

4703
02:44:36,710 --> 02:44:36,479
they already had that conversation all

4704
02:44:38,710 --> 02:44:36,720
right

4705
02:44:39,830 --> 02:44:38,720
well that clarified a lot for me because

4706
02:44:41,349 --> 02:44:39,840
like i've been thinking this whole time

4707
02:44:43,030 --> 02:44:41,359
they're just making fun of us like this

4708
02:44:44,230 --> 02:44:43,040
entire time like

4709
02:44:46,630 --> 02:44:44,240
well they're not making fun of you

4710
02:44:48,550 --> 02:44:46,640
unless they're calling you jerry

4711
02:44:51,269 --> 02:44:48,560
i'm not jerry i'm definitely if you

4712
02:44:53,750 --> 02:44:51,279
weren't ben i'd be i'd be so mad

4713
02:44:56,070 --> 02:44:53,760
they're like no no bin's the cool one me

4714
02:44:59,349 --> 02:44:56,080
no no no it's joe

4715
02:45:01,030 --> 02:44:59,359
the guy who actually looks cool i'd be

4716
02:45:09,269 --> 02:45:01,040
so pissed

4717
02:45:15,429 --> 02:45:12,389
oh [\h__\h] yeah yeah dude yeah

4718
02:45:17,269 --> 02:45:15,439
that's [\h__\h] hilarious dude that's

4719
02:45:20,950 --> 02:45:17,279
funny dude

4720
02:45:24,630 --> 02:45:20,960
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

4721
02:45:36,790 --> 02:45:24,640
so uh who do we have next week coming on

4722
02:45:42,070 --> 02:45:39,990
okay here we go here we go next week

4723
02:45:43,990 --> 02:45:42,080
dude we don't have the 13th

4724
02:45:45,670 --> 02:45:44,000
we don't have the 13th we don't have

4725
02:45:47,190 --> 02:45:45,680
anybody on the 13th you know who we

4726
02:45:50,070 --> 02:45:47,200
should as rivia

4727
02:45:51,910 --> 02:45:50,080
larry we should have larry he hit us up

4728
02:45:53,190 --> 02:45:51,920
let's have larry on

4729
02:45:54,950 --> 02:45:53,200
okay i don't even know if any of our

4730
02:45:56,870 --> 02:45:54,960
listeners know about larry yet

4731
02:46:00,309 --> 02:45:56,880
not yet but people with glasses let me

4732
02:46:06,230 --> 02:46:03,110
larry larry shall we talk about larry

4733
02:46:10,070 --> 02:46:06,240
why don't we talk about larry

4734
02:46:13,910 --> 02:46:10,080
back in my day anyway dude um

4735
02:46:15,670 --> 02:46:13,920
larry is i mean

4736
02:46:17,670 --> 02:46:15,680
well first off one of the nicest bros

4737
02:46:18,070 --> 02:46:17,680
i've ever met but he started to listen

4738
02:46:21,269 --> 02:46:18,080
to

4739
02:46:23,349 --> 02:46:21,279
our show like after he had an

4740
02:46:25,110 --> 02:46:23,359
amazing experience well just

4741
02:46:26,550 --> 02:46:25,120
life-changing experience with one of his

4742
02:46:29,670 --> 02:46:26,560
friends

4743
02:46:32,710 --> 02:46:29,680
near montauk island

4744
02:46:36,469 --> 02:46:32,720
bay yeah he had an experience with

4745
02:46:39,510 --> 02:46:36,479
a friend and got into the subject

4746
02:46:40,950 --> 02:46:39,520
and started listening to our show and

4747
02:46:42,309 --> 02:46:40,960
i mean he emailed us out of the blues

4748
02:46:42,630 --> 02:46:42,319
like hey guys thanks for doing what you

4749
02:46:46,230 --> 02:46:42,640
do

4750
02:46:47,190 --> 02:46:46,240
lot of them but like those emails that

4751
02:46:48,790 --> 02:46:47,200
are like hey

4752
02:46:50,630 --> 02:46:48,800
i don't care what anybody else says like

4753
02:46:51,269 --> 02:46:50,640
keep doing whatever that like keeps me

4754
02:46:53,429 --> 02:46:51,279
going right

4755
02:46:55,110 --> 02:46:53,439
yeah definitely so i mean for those that

4756
02:46:58,630 --> 02:46:55,120
don't know about larry yet like

4757
02:47:01,670 --> 02:46:58,640
he has an amazing uh an experience

4758
02:47:04,630 --> 02:47:01,680
an amazing experience great perspective

4759
02:47:05,990 --> 02:47:04,640
on this entire thing and he's like

4760
02:47:07,510 --> 02:47:06,000
working through a couple of things

4761
02:47:09,590 --> 02:47:07,520
putting putting together a couple of

4762
02:47:11,590 --> 02:47:09,600
things uh he's doing a website he's

4763
02:47:14,150 --> 02:47:11,600
starting his own podcast

4764
02:47:14,790 --> 02:47:14,160
uh and and he was so inspired by our

4765
02:47:16,469 --> 02:47:14,800
community

4766
02:47:18,070 --> 02:47:16,479
and the people that listen to our show

4767
02:47:19,349 --> 02:47:18,080
and and you know talk [\h__\h] and like

4768
02:47:20,150 --> 02:47:19,359
laugh at the same time we're talking

4769
02:47:22,389 --> 02:47:20,160
about like

4770
02:47:24,870 --> 02:47:22,399
people getting like traumatized and like

4771
02:47:27,990 --> 02:47:24,880
abducted and [\h__\h] and like mentos

4772
02:47:29,510 --> 02:47:28,000
like you know so i think

4773
02:47:31,110 --> 02:47:29,520
man we should reach out to see to see if

4774
02:47:33,349 --> 02:47:31,120
he'd be down on the thing i'm down

4775
02:47:34,309 --> 02:47:33,359
let's do that only thing is only thing

4776
02:47:35,990 --> 02:47:34,319
is dude sorry

4777
02:47:37,590 --> 02:47:36,000
i i have a dentist appointment and my

4778
02:47:39,429 --> 02:47:37,600
mouth might be a little numb so i'm

4779
02:47:41,990 --> 02:47:39,439
going to be talking like this

4780
02:47:42,469 --> 02:47:42,000
which is cool so that'll be that'll be

4781
02:47:44,070 --> 02:47:42,479
happening

4782
02:47:45,750 --> 02:47:44,080
well the other day bro you had a [\h__\h]

4783
02:47:48,550 --> 02:47:45,760
root canal and did a

4784
02:47:49,670 --> 02:47:48,560
three-hour episode that's right okay so

4785
02:47:52,070 --> 02:47:49,680
then we're good because

4786
02:47:52,710 --> 02:47:52,080
well i'm getting the the procedure done

4787
02:47:54,870 --> 02:47:52,720
at uh

4788
02:47:56,710 --> 02:47:54,880
at one o'clock and i think my mouth was

4789
02:47:57,190 --> 02:47:56,720
like pretty much not numb by the time we

4790
02:47:59,910 --> 02:47:57,200
got on

4791
02:48:00,790 --> 02:47:59,920
so i think it'll be good yeah dude hey

4792
02:48:04,150 --> 02:48:00,800
van gogh

4793
02:48:07,590 --> 02:48:04,160
uh i'm excited to see that uh

4794
02:48:11,110 --> 02:48:07,600
that ufo response vehicle texas only

4795
02:48:14,950 --> 02:48:11,120
texas only yes dude

4796
02:48:17,269 --> 02:48:14,960
that's right uh wha he posted something

4797
02:48:17,750 --> 02:48:17,279
about like uh the was it the impala was

4798
02:48:19,830 --> 02:48:17,760
like

4799
02:48:21,510 --> 02:48:19,840
let's get the the response vehicle we

4800
02:48:22,950 --> 02:48:21,520
need to do something

4801
02:48:25,269 --> 02:48:22,960
you got to send us a picture of your

4802
02:48:26,710 --> 02:48:25,279
progress what if he sends us a picture

4803
02:48:29,269 --> 02:48:26,720
and it's like a roll of duct tape

4804
02:48:29,990 --> 02:48:29,279
and some sticks and like a tire he's

4805
02:48:32,309 --> 02:48:30,000
like

4806
02:48:35,110 --> 02:48:32,319
slowly but surely we're getting it

4807
02:48:37,269 --> 02:48:35,120
together i'm working on it

4808
02:48:39,190 --> 02:48:37,279
i love that dude i want to see it i want

4809
02:48:40,790 --> 02:48:39,200
to see it dude i love the idea though

4810
02:48:42,309 --> 02:48:40,800
like it's like a storm chaser i'm

4811
02:48:43,910 --> 02:48:42,319
picturing a storm chaser

4812
02:48:46,309 --> 02:48:43,920
we'll have to get you a ufo garage

4813
02:48:49,190 --> 02:48:46,319
bumper sticker dude when you build it

4814
02:48:50,790 --> 02:48:49,200
[\h__\h] it we'll make you one we'll make it

4815
02:48:53,670 --> 02:48:50,800
lime green

4816
02:48:55,030 --> 02:48:53,680
yep yeah yeah coming soon to a middle of

4817
02:48:56,870 --> 02:48:55,040
nowhere near you

4818
02:48:58,630 --> 02:48:56,880
yeah dude this little thing where i

4819
02:48:59,590 --> 02:48:58,640
could click to show people's comments is

4820
02:49:01,349 --> 02:48:59,600
so fun look at that

4821
02:49:04,469 --> 02:49:01,359
i know i like that a lot of fun this is

4822
02:49:07,510 --> 02:49:04,479
look hahaha from space cow

4823
02:49:11,349 --> 02:49:07,520
love that alien girl what's up girl

4824
02:49:11,830 --> 02:49:11,359
what's up girl girl uh yeah this is this

4825
02:49:13,990 --> 02:49:11,840
is cool

4826
02:49:15,670 --> 02:49:14,000
i'm liking this this new uh live thing

4827
02:49:18,150 --> 02:49:15,680
man dave also

4828
02:49:19,750 --> 02:49:18,160
says oh that was for uh lou but he said

4829
02:49:22,790 --> 02:49:19,760
yes to the mullet

4830
02:49:24,950 --> 02:49:22,800
oh yeah dude all right well yeah so

4831
02:49:26,790 --> 02:49:24,960
i'll let's reach out to uh to larry and

4832
02:49:28,950 --> 02:49:26,800
see if he's down for next week and then

4833
02:49:31,990 --> 02:49:28,960
the 20th we've also have free

4834
02:49:35,190 --> 02:49:32,000
and then the 27th we have lou elizondo

4835
02:49:38,230 --> 02:49:35,200
no we have uh uh uh uh

4836
02:49:39,349 --> 02:49:38,240
oh geraldine coming on is geraldine on

4837
02:49:41,030 --> 02:49:39,359
the well i haven't put it in the

4838
02:49:42,389 --> 02:49:41,040
calendar is that the 20th

4839
02:49:44,309 --> 02:49:42,399
oh when i was talking to you you were

4840
02:49:47,910 --> 02:49:44,319
like let me put it in the calendar

4841
02:49:48,389 --> 02:49:47,920
right now i'm putting it in exactly like

4842
02:49:50,150 --> 02:49:48,399
me

4843
02:49:51,620 --> 02:49:50,160
that's exactly what you said that's why

4844
02:49:53,349 --> 02:49:51,630
that's exactly how i sound

4845
02:49:56,790 --> 02:49:53,359
[Laughter]

4846
02:50:00,469 --> 02:49:56,800
april 22nd no no

4847
02:50:04,230 --> 02:50:00,479
mate i'm sorry that's i'm dumb

4848
02:50:07,510 --> 02:50:04,240
i said that april 22nd my bad

4849
02:50:09,670 --> 02:50:07,520
may 20th dude bro we're so late dude i

4850
02:50:11,510 --> 02:50:09,680
wonder if she's still on

4851
02:50:13,750 --> 02:50:11,520
she's still sitting by her phone like

4852
02:50:15,830 --> 02:50:13,760
these guys are [\h__\h]

4853
02:50:18,309 --> 02:50:15,840
may 20th we'll be having geraldine ross

4854
02:50:22,309 --> 02:50:18,319
go on okay so that's two weeks okay

4855
02:50:24,309 --> 02:50:22,319
[\h__\h] yeah so let's get uh

4856
02:50:25,429 --> 02:50:24,319
let's get larry and then we're gonna

4857
02:50:27,429 --> 02:50:25,439
have uh

4858
02:50:29,510 --> 02:50:27,439
geraldine and then we got lou elizondo

4859
02:50:31,910 --> 02:50:29,520
coming on so it's gonna be uh

4860
02:50:33,110 --> 02:50:31,920
yeah it's gonna be awesome uh next three

4861
02:50:34,469 --> 02:50:33,120
weeks for sure

4862
02:50:36,150 --> 02:50:34,479
yeah the next three weeks are gonna be

4863
02:50:36,630 --> 02:50:36,160
fun i'm actually really excited that

4864
02:50:38,389 --> 02:50:36,640
that

4865
02:50:40,389 --> 02:50:38,399
we we have like a little like next week

4866
02:50:43,269 --> 02:50:40,399
as a like a question

4867
02:50:44,389 --> 02:50:43,279
and we don't have anybody like you know

4868
02:50:46,790 --> 02:50:44,399
we have to

4869
02:50:48,790 --> 02:50:46,800
yeah dude i i want to hear more from

4870
02:50:51,030 --> 02:50:48,800
from our our listeners that that

4871
02:50:52,469 --> 02:50:51,040
come in with with their with stories and

4872
02:50:53,990 --> 02:50:52,479
reach out to us because

4873
02:50:55,590 --> 02:50:54,000
man some of the stuff that we get is

4874
02:50:57,349 --> 02:50:55,600
like amazing some people aren't

4875
02:50:58,790 --> 02:50:57,359
really willing to be on the show but

4876
02:50:59,910 --> 02:50:58,800
they want to tell us the story anyway

4877
02:51:01,590 --> 02:50:59,920
but like

4878
02:51:03,190 --> 02:51:01,600
like a small amount of people that are

4879
02:51:05,990 --> 02:51:03,200
willing to come on the show

4880
02:51:06,309 --> 02:51:06,000
so that'll be fun dude hey man look at

4881
02:51:08,870 --> 02:51:06,319
this

4882
02:51:10,150 --> 02:51:08,880
all these people want uh bumper stickers

4883
02:51:11,269 --> 02:51:10,160
hell yeah cloudy with a chance of

4884
02:51:15,030 --> 02:51:11,279
meatballs

4885
02:51:16,870 --> 02:51:15,040
we'll get you one right oh yeah jennifer

4886
02:51:19,190 --> 02:51:16,880
heck yeah we need to make a special gun

4887
02:51:25,240 --> 02:51:19,200
bag sticker

4888
02:51:27,349 --> 02:51:25,250
you put on a bag bag for your gun

4889
02:51:28,790 --> 02:51:27,359
[Laughter]

4890
02:51:30,710 --> 02:51:28,800
we should do we need to start making

4891
02:51:33,990 --> 02:51:30,720
some patches some cool patches

4892
02:51:36,309 --> 02:51:34,000
oh my god yes so on to backpacks

4893
02:51:37,670 --> 02:51:36,319
or if you're a punk rock kid you can sew

4894
02:51:40,710 --> 02:51:37,680
it onto your jacket

4895
02:51:42,230 --> 02:51:40,720
or your pants yeah dude

4896
02:51:44,230 --> 02:51:42,240
did you ever did you ever do that like

4897
02:51:46,550 --> 02:51:44,240
put patches on your like your jean

4898
02:51:48,870 --> 02:51:46,560
jacket your denim jacket yeah dude i had

4899
02:51:49,590 --> 02:51:48,880
like dead kennedy's patches and [\h__\h] and

4900
02:51:57,030 --> 02:51:49,600
like

4901
02:52:00,309 --> 02:51:57,040
and roll

4902
02:52:01,110 --> 02:52:00,319
the dead kennedys man a bunch of like

4903
02:52:04,309 --> 02:52:01,120
black fat

4904
02:52:05,349 --> 02:52:04,319
flag patches and just yeah yeah i want i

4905
02:52:08,389 --> 02:52:05,359
want to i want a

4906
02:52:11,030 --> 02:52:08,399
a a denim jacket that um

4907
02:52:12,469 --> 02:52:11,040
it's black but i've i've accidentally

4908
02:52:14,550 --> 02:52:12,479
sprayed some

4909
02:52:16,070 --> 02:52:14,560
some uh some bleach on it so there's

4910
02:52:19,190 --> 02:52:16,080
like some white spray

4911
02:52:22,070 --> 02:52:19,200
and then on the back is a big uh uh

4912
02:52:23,110 --> 02:52:22,080
jim goodall patch of the the

4913
02:52:26,469 --> 02:52:23,120
interceptors

4914
02:52:30,070 --> 02:52:26,479
yeah that's what i want yeah

4915
02:52:32,469 --> 02:52:30,080
yeah dude jim goodall uh

4916
02:52:33,110 --> 02:52:32,479
groom lake test facility dreamland area

4917
02:52:37,030 --> 02:52:33,120
51

4918
02:52:38,870 --> 02:52:37,040
interceptors patch man yeah dude yeah

4919
02:52:40,630 --> 02:52:38,880
we're gonna get this on a t-shirt pretty

4920
02:52:42,469 --> 02:52:40,640
soon or we're gonna do something with it

4921
02:52:45,750 --> 02:52:42,479
jim gave us permission to use it

4922
02:52:46,630 --> 02:52:45,760
so uh yeah yeah it's it's gonna be

4923
02:52:50,550 --> 02:52:46,640
pretty sweet

4924
02:52:53,429 --> 02:52:50,560
patch for tack bag yes yeah oh my god

4925
02:52:55,670 --> 02:52:53,439
dude lou uh lewis hit us up he was like

4926
02:52:58,870 --> 02:52:55,680
he sent me a uh

4927
02:53:00,790 --> 02:52:58,880
a link to this website that makes uh

4928
02:53:02,550 --> 02:53:00,800
stuffed animals and

4929
02:53:04,230 --> 02:53:02,560
yeah he was like dude we need to make a

4930
02:53:07,349 --> 02:53:04,240
cinnamon terry doll

4931
02:53:09,269 --> 02:53:07,359
yeah bro at the new studio if oh okay we

4932
02:53:11,590 --> 02:53:09,279
gotta get a cemetery doll to sit on the

4933
02:53:14,630 --> 02:53:11,600
couch in the background at the moment

4934
02:53:16,150 --> 02:53:14,640
i'm down bro so

4935
02:53:17,910 --> 02:53:16,160
i started looking into it and it turns

4936
02:53:20,070 --> 02:53:17,920
out you have to make the the doll

4937
02:53:23,750 --> 02:53:20,080
naked and then you put you could put

4938
02:53:25,830 --> 02:53:23,760
like human clothes on it later

4939
02:53:28,230 --> 02:53:25,840
so it's like less expensive see so

4940
02:53:33,030 --> 02:53:28,240
anyway i'm gonna put a

4941
02:53:36,150 --> 02:53:34,550
i thought you were gonna like predict

4942
02:53:37,670 --> 02:53:36,160
what i was gonna say and you didn't say

4943
02:53:38,550 --> 02:53:37,680
anything so

4944
02:53:41,750 --> 02:53:38,560
i thought you were going to say i'm

4945
02:53:44,389 --> 02:53:41,760
going to put a ufo garage t-shirt on him

4946
02:53:45,110 --> 02:53:44,399
that'll be like good all right let's not

4947
02:53:48,230 --> 02:53:45,120
get sexual

4948
02:53:50,550 --> 02:53:48,240
cemetery he's he's a fictional alien

4949
02:53:53,910 --> 02:53:50,560
he has no genitals he doesn't he doesn't

4950
02:53:55,429 --> 02:53:53,920
have any genitalia

4951
02:53:57,030 --> 02:53:55,439
or does he we can make it up dude he's

4952
02:53:58,630 --> 02:53:57,040
an alien we could

4953
02:54:00,710 --> 02:53:58,640
whatever we could we could we could put

4954
02:54:04,230 --> 02:54:00,720
his wiener on the back

4955
02:54:07,670 --> 02:54:04,240
and his butt in the front like it's like

4956
02:54:10,950 --> 02:54:07,680
like a ponytail he's like

4957
02:54:14,230 --> 02:54:10,960
he's like hold on guys hold on let me

4958
02:54:18,550 --> 02:54:16,950
it was like dude that was multiple that

4959
02:54:20,309 --> 02:54:18,560
would suck to like have your dick under

4960
02:54:23,670 --> 02:54:20,319
your back

4961
02:54:25,110 --> 02:54:23,680
i know it just seems like a terrible

4962
02:54:26,230 --> 02:54:25,120
you feel like people are judging you

4963
02:54:27,830 --> 02:54:26,240
like you don't even know it dude you're

4964
02:54:29,990 --> 02:54:27,840
in line at six flags people

4965
02:54:31,030 --> 02:54:30,000
look at the size of your tt like what is

4966
02:54:46,790 --> 02:54:31,040
that

4967
02:54:49,269 --> 02:54:46,800
also we're like the most people

4968
02:54:51,990 --> 02:54:49,279
listening to the show

4969
02:54:54,309 --> 02:54:52,000
of course of course we would have most

4970
02:54:57,910 --> 02:54:54,319
people [\h__\h] watching it like after we

4971
02:55:00,550 --> 02:54:57,920
found a pretty amazing conversation

4972
02:55:02,230 --> 02:55:00,560
i don't know it's all relative dude once

4973
02:55:05,269 --> 02:55:02,240
it once it gets to wieners we know we're

4974
02:55:07,269 --> 02:55:05,279
almost out of stuff to talk about

4975
02:55:10,070 --> 02:55:07,279
look it's not like you want to talk

4976
02:55:12,389 --> 02:55:10,080
about wieners it just happens okay

4977
02:55:14,710 --> 02:55:12,399
cause it's a funny aggression here's a

4978
02:55:23,030 --> 02:55:14,720
funny you all right

4979
02:55:26,790 --> 02:55:25,110
do we ever come out with a like a coffee

4980
02:55:28,630 --> 02:55:26,800
flavor

4981
02:55:30,550 --> 02:55:28,640
you know like all the podcasts have like

4982
02:55:32,630 --> 02:55:30,560
their own coffee right yeah

4983
02:55:34,070 --> 02:55:32,640
let's call it uh wieners and farts

4984
02:55:38,550 --> 02:55:34,080
wieners of farts

4985
02:55:47,330 --> 02:55:41,590
this deep dark roast

4986
02:55:52,389 --> 02:55:49,670
[Music]

4987
02:55:55,510 --> 02:55:52,399
you're like that's delicious your like

4988
02:56:01,910 --> 02:55:59,830
oh god when i switched over to

4989
02:56:03,750 --> 02:56:01,920
so much more concentration after

4990
02:56:05,830 --> 02:56:03,760
switching over the ufo garage wieners

4991
02:56:08,870 --> 02:56:05,840
and farts roast

4992
02:56:11,269 --> 02:56:08,880
when i wake up in the morning

4993
02:56:12,790 --> 02:56:11,279
there's nothing i'd rather drink than

4994
02:56:15,190 --> 02:56:12,800
i'd sip on

4995
02:56:18,389 --> 02:56:15,200
with my family than wieners and farts it

4996
02:56:21,910 --> 02:56:21,190
light roast lots of caffeine yeah i was

4997
02:56:23,750 --> 02:56:21,920
gonna

4998
02:56:25,670 --> 02:56:23,760
just get you real going yeah you know

4999
02:56:26,710 --> 02:56:25,680
like i didn't notice but the light roast

5000
02:56:29,510 --> 02:56:26,720
is like less

5001
02:56:30,469 --> 02:56:29,520
intense like the the darker the less

5002
02:56:34,630 --> 02:56:30,479
caffeine

5003
02:56:35,750 --> 02:56:34,640
it's like it's roasted longer it loses

5004
02:56:38,469 --> 02:56:35,760
its caffeine

5005
02:56:38,870 --> 02:56:38,479
caffeinated abilities dude yeah yeah

5006
02:56:49,030 --> 02:56:38,880
this

5007
02:56:50,870 --> 02:56:49,040
the notes and the and the fragrances

5008
02:56:52,790 --> 02:56:50,880
that we all know that we all know and

5009
02:56:55,830 --> 02:56:52,800
love the terpenes

5010
02:56:56,630 --> 02:56:55,840
right there the tannins that's right

5011
02:56:59,349 --> 02:56:56,640
that's right

5012
02:56:59,830 --> 02:56:59,359
that we know about intimately hell yeah

5013
02:57:03,110 --> 02:56:59,840
dude

5014
02:57:03,910 --> 02:57:03,120
all right bro that was fun man it was it

5015
02:57:12,150 --> 02:57:03,920
was

5016
02:57:15,990 --> 02:57:14,309
you messed me up well we're off time

5017
02:57:18,550 --> 02:57:16,000
because we're live

5018
02:57:19,349 --> 02:57:18,560
you go ahead and say it i'll mouth it

5019
02:57:22,710 --> 02:57:19,359
this